Why Didn’t NASA Catch This Two-Story-Wide Meteor Entering Earth’s Atmosphere?

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A space rock calculated to be as wide as a two story building is tall which exploded with the equivalent of 13,000 tons of TNT entering Earth’s atmosphere was missed by NASA on February 6th. Completely.

This is despite the fact that NASA has a whole entire program specifically dedicated to spotting potentially dangerous space rocks entering the Earth’s atmosphere.

NASA made the announcement after the fact, but the agency was itself informed of the event by another agency, which many have speculated is the military. (Other guesses are the NSA, which spies on everything everywhere, including space.)

How sad is that?

The government isn’t telling anyone exactly what technology was used to hone in on this rock entering the atmosphere, but astronomer and Slate science writer Phil Plait noted that there three possible ways:

“I can think of three ways to detect a big fireball in this case: Satellite observations, which would image them directly; seismic monitors, which can detect the explosion as the sound wave from the blast moves through the ground; and atmospheric microphones, which can detect the long-wavelength infrasound from an event. This may have been detected by any combination of these (though since it was over the open ocean, seismic monitors seen unlikely).”

The fireball fell over the Atlantic ocean in a place we are told is 600 miles away from the nearest inhabited place, but had it taken a slightly different path, it would’ve come down over a major city, rattling people’s windows and scared the hell out of everyone with absolutely no warning whatsoever from our so-called space agency.

NASA tries to pretend they have everything space-related monitored and under control at all times with all these comets and asteroids we’ve been seeing lately (which, is it just me, seems to be on an uptick?), but as stories like this continue to come out, it doesn’t leave anyone with the impression they actually do.

Let’s be honest with ourselves: NASA can make all the new programs they want, but it is pretty clear that the public wouldn’t be warned in the event of a real Earth-leveling asteroid hurling toward the planet.

Guess we should all watch out for the military moving into their underground bunkers on that one.

(Source: Yahoo!)

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  • SP_88

    Regardless of whether NASA knows about it or not, we won’t be warned about it. With all the elitists that want to lower the population, the more people who die from an asteroid or meteor, the better. They will say that informing the public is too dangerous because it will cause panic, or some other lame ass excuse. They will lie and say that they must have miscalculated or something.
    Like the article said, when the elitists start heading for their bunkers, we will know that the SHTF.

    • Nexusfast123

      I think you are probably right. You could not move millions of people in time and not without mass panic.

      • SP_88

        If it’s small enough to only destroy a city or two and there is no way to evacuate everyone, there’s no point in saying anything. If it’s giant, and will destroy the planet and kill everyone, there’s no point in saying anything then either.
        So unless there are some real and tangible options that will make a difference, like having enough warning to evacuate or hide underground or something, or somehow blow it up, then there is no point in causing riots and chaos over something that can’t be changed.

        • It’s cyclical and has happened many times before as has been recorded clearly in the ancient texts that the Romans all but completely wiped out when they burnt the library of Alexandria to the ground. This is an advanced flat earth video/concept but nevertheless, it is the truth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bE0BqNl_M7Q – there’s gonna be a lot of fireballs and the evidence(physical evidence as in the spherical stone balls themselves) of previous fireballs, numbering in the billions, are found all over Earth.

          • Reverend Draco

            Fireplanes, – not fireballs.
            Everything is flat, remember?

          • Whatever you say, rev, keep spinnin’, I surely don’t care.

          • How would molten rock get into the sky, space volcanos?
            Meteors are heated by falling through the atmosphere, until which they are very cold.

          • Something like that, yes, watch the video I posted, it is 55minutes long but it is very well done and contains a plethora of research detailing different cultures reporting on the same exact event. It is an advanced topic though because if you don’t have the basics down if may not make sense but the work is fantastic IMO.

          • It looks like a magic tree in a Disney cartoon.

          • That is a Persian deity, better hope you never see that magic tree, you won’t be around much longer afterwards if you do.

          • You forget, I’m an atheist.

          • Doesn’t matter, they think it’s a god, you do not, same thing will happen afterwards regardless.

    • give it a rest

      its not just the elitists that want a lower population. anyone that has a clue about sustainability knows that earth is overpopulated yet the breeders keep popping out kids like pez dispensers. additionally you will never see the elitists head for a bunker. when the shit hits the fan do you have a clue how to make flour much less bread? the majority of the infotainment social media population will say it comes from the store, and mean it. as for a natural disaster event culling the herd, bring it on, my locale is just as good as the next, so don’t try and leverage my opinion with a threat of death. its the assholes that survive that have more to worry about than the ones that don’t … or aren’t you aware of what is going on behind the façade in the world today? expecting nasa to know about everything in space is like expecting cops to prevent crime or protect you. surely you aren’t that juvenile? the reason they will never tell the public about an event like this is because the population is to stupid, selfish and completely incapable of evacuating without doing more harm than good. old ladys will trample infants, inner city will stock up on new shoes and tvs, fuck, what part of herd mentality don’t you get?

      • Esmae

        Too bad the down button is just a fallacy.

  • mirageseekr

    NASA couldn’t “detect” it because it wasn’t “filmed in a hollywood basement”- Red Hot Chili Peppers

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    • I forgot


      Space may be the final frontier
      But it’s made in a Hollywood basement
      Cobain can you hear the spheres
      Singing songs off station to station
      And Alderaan’s not far away
      It’s Californication

      NASA is a lie!

  • LiberalsRLost

    They did not miss it …… luciferians do not care about us and any death it but a blood sacrifice for them……these shape-shiters do not have the moral compass of God’s creation…..

    • Reverend Draco

      Odin did a decent job of creation. . . nice of you to notice.

  • Nabi

    The White House does not want to panic the low-info Obama supporters.

  • Frank Energy

    Folks, be prepared. It is not crazy. just ask….”what would my grandfather do to be responsible?”

  • Esmae

    Planet X, nibiru,rapture, alien attack, ww3 take your pick all and any of it will be intentional, this was just another test run as it was on Nov 2015.
    Our metal infested skies are a sky and they can project anything the psychopaths choose to project.

  • Anothereno

    did anyone get hurt? No? then who cares 😛

    • You’re just supposed to be scared… lol

      • Anothereno

        but but but but, not much scares me, as long as it’s not Armageddon I’m pretty self sufficient 🙂

        • Lucky you! I am working on it. Ironically though, I just watched this yesterday about the repeating Armageddon of this world and holy shit!

          The physical evidence is frightening.

          It’s 55minutes long but it will give you a better explanation about Armageddon than any other resource IMHO. I’m not worried though as there’s nothing I can do about it so I will keep calm and prep for the future!

  • Donnie

    I am sure they seen it coming in.

  • It is not Paranoia

    Why do you believe NASA? This is the evidence of their lies, right before your eyes. Yet you’re still gonna think that “maybe something they say is true, like that we live on a spinning ball”.

    NOTHING they say is true!! But you believe them! And you will continue to do so. And the best part – you will PAY FOR IT!

    Yeah…and WE are crazy.

    • But they have faith in NASA and in their $cience religion you heretic! lol!

    • Reverend Draco

      It isn’t NASA that says we live on a spinning ball. . . it’s physics.

      The same physics that allows curve balls to be pitched.
      The same physics that keeps your car in contact with the pavement.
      The same physics that operate the computer you used to post your ignorant horsecrap.

      Yes – you certainly are a fucking nutter.

      • Salar de Uyuni – 4000 square miles of FLAT terrain, 1 meter difference in height all throughout and absolutely no curvature.

        So… How does this place exist on your sphere?

        • When are you going to tell me what earth is if it isn’t round?
          Is it flat, like a piece of paper, or flat like one side of a cube?Or?

          • You are far too intelligent to be asking me questions like that which makes me wonder of your motives… just being honest.

          • My motive is simple. I have never seen a photograph of the earth that didn’t depict it as anything but round, just like driving the vast majority of the interstate system did. If I found out it was flat like a piece of paper, I’d tunnel through to China to say hi to the folks that I listen to on CRI.

          • Well it’s both round and flat. I edited my above reply.

          • According to the drawing in that application, the earth is shaped like a half of a globe with the flat spot south of south america?

          • That’s the whole globe, not half and that’s a map you can use for navigation and not get lost, wouldn’t try that using a globe though.

          • It is not Paranoia

            Hey Rolly, have you seen this? I just found it this morning and it blew my mind. I thought I’d share with someone intelligent.

            I know you know it already, but this is the finest proof I’ve seen so far. Tell me what you think.

          • No I have not, THANK YOU! Downloaded! Are they really this sloppy? Well, after all of the bubbles in “space walks” they allow to be released my guess is they are so confident of their scheme over the sleeping masses they don’t even care.

            I figured I’d know they are getting desperate when I see the first “real” satellite photo in a search engine.

          • It is not Paranoia

            It’s like everytime some piece of this lie-puzzle is exposed, there’s always their “counter-attack”. It’s a good indicator if you have eyes to see it.

            Just like with the space snorkels, you just can’t make this shit up. People started questioning and voila! It’s no conspiracy! It’s THIS simple:

            Haha because “outer space” is full of dangerous water that can kill you!!

            It’s like they are testing the boundaries of sheeple’s stupidity.

          • Which you’d be doing a better job of dispelling if you’d refrain from rants in favor of restatements.

          • It is not Paranoia

            I gotta say I don’t understand what you’re saying, English is not my native language, sorry.

            Is it “I agree” or “fuck you”?
            My guess is “fuck you”, but I could be wrong.

          • Gary

            Sort of like the board game Balderdash. Some people will believe the most outrageous things, if one can but keep a straight face whilst selling the snake-oil. 🙂

          • Al Mather

            Right …especially those secret evil masonic fake astronaut Jews.. who try make everybody think there’s planets and space, and stuff..

            as if there’s satellites used for telecommunications, meteorological information gathering, data transmission…

            when all you smart folk know it’s really just blimps and stuff on really big poles and things stuck to a big glass dome that sits on top of us.

            I mean…what ? Do they think you’re idiots?

          • Gary

            I’m guessing that you don’t win many games of Balderdash. At least, not when playing with “conspiracy theorists”. 🙂

          • Al Mather

            No… when the “space snorkels” are presented as a device to remove excess moisture from breathing apparatus .. Conspiracy dolts..always looking for some idiotic “secret” to expose and cling to … put their feeble mindedness on parade.

          • I just updated the gleason’s map above, this one you can download or view full screen and zoon in. The latitudinal and longitudinal quadrants near the ice wall should resemble the pizza-slice looking ones right next to the north pole but they are shaped much differently and this is why if you use a globe to navigate far south in those areas you’re asking for trouble.

          • If I understand you, the earth is shaped like a bell jar with the north pole at the top and a solid bottom?

          • Close, the north pole is in the center and everything including the sky revolves around the north pole and there is no south pole which they even admit to in movies I guess to be funny or something: Click here for image – If the firmament includes magma, which I believe it does, then the sky CAN split into two and has before according to the ancient texts. It opened up and spilled magma onto us which formed spherical balls of fire that rained down from the heavens, just like the now stone spheres found all over earth numbering in the billions today. That persian deity is what they thought they saw when they saw the split(the great rift is the split) with the glowing hot magma in the sky. Waykiwayki.com (Mark Night) has done extensive research into this and his work is outstanding IMO is you wish to learn more about it.

            I am not going to pretend I know what is beneath nor what is above but there is ancient knowledge that describes both. If you look at the lower right hand and lower left hand corners of the Gleason map it will show you the area the sun illuminates at the solstices and the circular pattern it travels overhead but ever shifting its course solstice to solstice from the tropic of Cancer to the tropic of Capricorn and vice versa. For the sun to illuminate only a small area of earth terrain at a time it can’t be as far away as they say it is and guess who flaunts that secret knowledge in front of our faces?

            Click for image

            Click for image

            Google on earth day, click here for image

            PS: Where are the 4 rivers that lead to the north pole that have been previously charted in modern day maps? I doubt they dried up or disappeared since then: http://www.helmink.com/Antique_Map_Mercator_North_Pole_2/indexhr.php

            Here is what they give us now: http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/blogs/elegantfigures/files/2010/09/natural_earth_orthographic_np.jpg

            (that one took me a while so I hope you enjoy it and learn from it)

          • The more you tell me, the less I can see where the alleged flat earth is, since those of us who have never left the northern hemisphere wouldn’t see anything that wouldn’t appear to be the northern hemisphere of a globe. A cylinder can spin the same way a globe would, and its orientation could produce seasons in the same way.

          • Look at the circular star trails, they are impossible on a spinning ball unless you are situated at an axial point and could never produce those effect at mid-latitudes: http://www.photosbykev.com/wordpress/wp-content/gallery/star_trails/dynamic/penmon_point.jpg-nggid044469-ngg0dyn-0x0x100-00f0w010c010r110f110r010t010.jpg – we clearly aren’t spinning no matter the shape, the sky is.

          • Al Mather

            Actually Earths distance from Polaris is light years away…so whether you are at the north pole axis point … A few hundred miles away from it… Or a few thousand miles away from it… It is no neglible difference in your angle or perspective to the Polaris… The rotation of the earth still creates circular star trails… The only difference is you might catch a bit more of the curvature on the horizon as you look toward Polaris the lower your latitude.

          • If earth’s distance from Polaris is light years then how can Polaris possibly stay put in perfect alignment/distance with Earth since the beginning or recorded time in a galaxy traveling @ 500,000 miles per hour? That’s absurd, Polaris doesn’t “move with the Earth’s atmosphere.”

          • Al Mather

            You are locked into this childishly idiotic grasp of scale like a little brain box you can’t seem to break out of…

            We are surrounded by stars…

            Billions and billions…

            thousands upon thousands are visible.

            ALL OF THEM light years away.

            The stars our axis HAPPEN to point at ..at this period in time.. are Polaris and Sigma Octans.

            Here are the key distances to calculate our viewing angle to Polaris, Rolly…

            Polaris is 2500 trillion miles away

            Or orbit around the sun is a mere 350 million miles wide.
            If Polaris stood stationary how much would our viewing angle change???

          • There is no other logical conclusion to the fact that we can observe circular star trails at mid-latitudes than it is the sky that is moving and not us, regardless of the shape of Earth. This point has been thoroughly driven home without any logical refutation from the late, great Samuel Birley Rowbotham in his book: Zetetic Astronomy, by ‘Parallax’ – the situation you are confusing yourself with is logically and irrefutably addressed here: sacred-texts.com/earth/za/za48.htm

            Also, from this link: ifers.ace.st/t148-polaris-seen-from-the-southern-hemi-sphere?highlight=polaris – we have this: “If the Earth is a sphere and the pole star hangs over the northern axis, it would be impossible to see it for a single degree beyond the equator, or 90 degrees from the pole. The line-of-sight would become a tangent to the sphere, and consequently several thousand miles out of and divergent from the direction of the pole star. Many cases, however, are on record of the north polar star being visible far beyond the equator, as far even as the tropic of Capricorn.”
            -Dr. Samuel Rowbotham, “Earth Not a Globe, 2nd Edition” (41)

            “The astronomers’ theory of a globular Earth necessitates the conclusion that, if we travel south of the equator, to see the North Star is an impossibility. Yet it is well known this star has been seen by navigators when they have been more than 20 degrees south of the equator. This fact, like hundreds of other facts, puts the theory to shame, and gives us a proof that the Earth is not a globe.” -William Carpenter, “100 Proofs the Earth is Not a Globe” (71)

            -> this was before the Earth had a 23.5 degree tilt(1885) and likely got it’s 23.5 degree tilt in response to this man’s work but alas, even their revised (tilt)theory is FULL of holes, see below:

            I found that to account for this glaring problem in their model, desperate heliocentrists since the late 19th century have claimed the ball-Earth actually tilts a convenient 23.5 degrees back on its vertical axis. Even this brilliant revision to their theory cannot account for the visibility of many other constellations though. For instance, Ursa Major, very close to Polaris, can be seen from 90 degrees North latitude (the North Pole) all the way down to 30 degrees South latitude. The constellation Vulpecula can be seen from 90 degrees North latitude, all the way to 55 degrees South latitude. Taurus, Pisces and Leo can be seen from 90 degrees North all the way to 65 degrees South. Aquarius and Libra can be seen from 65 degrees North to 90 degrees South! The constellation Virgo is visible from 80 degrees North down to 80 degrees South, and Orion can be seen from 85 degrees North all the way to 75 degrees South latitude! An observer on a ball-Earth, regardless of any tilt or inclination, should not logically be able to see this far.

            Star Trails Prove Earth is the Center of the Universe:

            BTW you CAN see horizontal lines (or at least MORE horizontal ) with star trails… if you are at mid latitudes point your camera straight up plumb to your location or toward the celestial equator. But pointing at the axial stars create circular trails.

            YES! TRUE! That’s a clearly reproducible effect in the open source stellarium software!

            This effect is possible from a giant, fixed sky rotating over top of you also though, the exact but equal/opposite effect if one were located at the axial points of a spinning basketball/ping pong ball(earth) are also possible; the top would spin one way, the bottom, the other way even though the basketball/ping pong ball(earth) is actually spinning the same way but if the basketball/ping pong ball(earth) is the object that is spinning then there’s no circular star trails along the sides(mid-latitudes of Earth) of the basketball/ping pong ball(earth) if you were situated upon it NO MATTER THE DISTANCE OF THE STARS ABOVE/AROUND YOU, at those locations you would get lines, much like the lines you can observe straight overhead(plum) of you when you look straight up at the sky BUT if you keep the basketball/ping pong ball(earth) completely still but you instead spin the room with the lights in it or the stadium with the lights in it with the axis of the spin being lights(stars) that are aligned perfectly with the basketball/ping pong ball’s(earth) top and bottom axial points you will get circles no matter where you observe the axial lights from, hence, we’re NOT on a GLOBE!

          • Al Mather

            You keep going back to “proofs” that have been debunked 100 times .. Seasonal tilts , altitudes of the surface topography and the fact that the earth is an oblate spheroid all allow Polaris to be spotted a few degrees below the Equator every now and then here and there. Never denied.. easily accounted .
            Believe it or not there have been a few scientific advances since the nineteenth century.
            Riddle me this genius.. Let’s assume you are standing at the axial point looking up at Polaris 2500 trillion miles away.. taking exposures of star trails.. and you take 2 steps to your left or right… what do you think happens?? Say you go another 100 yds..1000yds… a mile???? Tell me.. what you think happens to the view?… I’m interested.
            Please …still waiting on why when everyone at the equator looks south they see stars swirling clockwise around Sigma Octans… and when they turn around and face North they see completely different stars swirling around Polaris. Get back to me on that OKAY?

          • You keep going back to “proofs” that have been debunked 100 times

            That’s your problem, they haven’t been “debunked” unless you consider more unproven theories as evidence(make up this bs to cover the other bs, make up a tilt to cover for Polaris able to be observed below the equator, etc.).. something you do all of the time.. and that ain’t proof, jack! I could make shit up to make what I say sound correct also(oblate spheroids, tilts, gravity, the earth is pear-shaped, the sun is really far away, the moon moves opposite direction than you are seeing… blahh blahh blahh… it’s not real, it’s BS!) but I don’t do that and neither does Eric and neither did Samuel Rowbotham but $cience and NASA does all of the time!

            Here is an INDEX of experiments which prove my point that haven’t been disproven back then and thus STILL hold true today. Notice he only uses provable evidence with experiments and logic and never makes up one $cience theory to explain himself… because he doesn’t need to, he’s telling the truth and is the real deal: http://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/za/

            Believe it or not there have been a few scientific advances since the nineteenth century.

            But the shape of the Earth hasn’t changed since then so the book remains true till this day and no need for extra theories to explain any of it either.

            Riddle me this genius.. Let’s assume you are standing at the axial point
            looking up at Polaris 2500 trillion miles away.. taking exposures of
            star trails.. and you take 2 steps to your left or right… what do you
            think happens?? Say you go another 100 yds..1000yds… a mile???? Tell
            me.. what you think happens to the view?… I’m interested.

            Hey Genius, the sky is moving and we are not thus you will see the SAME thing around Polaris REGARDLESS of your position as long as Polaris is visable… 100 yds, 1000 yds, a mile!

            “there is a very small star (of about the sixth magnitude) in the south, called Sigma Octantis,
            round which all the constellations of the south revolve, and which is
            therefore the southern polar star. It is scarcely polite to contradict
            the statements made, but it is certain that persons who have been
            educated to believe that the earth is a globe, going to the southern
            parts of the earth do not examine such matters critically. They see the
            stars move from towards the east towards the west, and they are
            satisfied[edit: THAT’S YOU, BTW]. But they have not instituted special experiments, regardless
            of results, to ascertain the real and absolute movements of the southern
            . Another thing is certain, that from and within the
            equator the north pole star, and the constellations Ursa Major, Ursa Minor,
            and many others, can be seen from every meridian simultaneously;
            whereas in the south, from the equator, neither the so-called south pole
            star, nor the remarkable constellation of the Southern Cross, can be
            seen simultaneously from every meridian
            , showing that all the
            constellations of the south–pole star included–sweep over a great
            southern arc and across the meridian, from their rise in the evening to
            their setting in the morning. But if the earth is a globe, Sigma Octantis
            a south pole star, and the Southern Cross a southern circumpolar
            constellation, they would all be visible at the same time from every
            longitude on the same latitude, as is the case with the northern pole
            star and the northern circumpolar constellations”

            …still waiting on why when everyone at the equator looks south they
            see stars swirling clockwise around Sigma Octans… and when they turn
            around and face North they see completely different stars swirling
            around Polaris. Get back to me on that OKAY?

            I feel like a broken record, spin the basketball Al Mather, the top spins one way, bottom spins the other way! Now keep the basketball still and spin the sky, top spins one way, bottom spins the other way! TADAHH!

          • Al Mather

            “I feel like a broken record, spin the basketball Al Mather, the top spins one way, bottom spins the other way! Now keep the basketball still and spin the sky, top spins one way, bottom spins the other way! TADAHH!”
            If the sky spins over a disc shaped flat plane surrounded by wall of ice like you idiots claim.. HOW does it spin one way over the North (center of disc) and the opposite way .. around a different star over all the various points of the outer circle (south)… Yet ALL THOSE LOCATIONS SHARE THE IDENTICAL VIEW OF SIGMA OCTANS..Its physically impossible! Draw that one up for me …I can’t wait.

          • LOL, thanks for proving my point, AL Mlather 🙂

            If the sky spins over a DISC SHAPED FLAT PLANE surrounded by wall of icelike you idiots claim.. HOW does it spin one way over the North (centerof disc) and the opposite way .. around a different star over all the various points of the outer circle (south)… Yet ALL THOSE LOCATIONS SHARE THE IDENTICAL VIEW OF SIGMA OCTANS..Its physically impossible!

            Star trails spin the opposite way because of your perspective and the fact that you can see those circles all over the north and south means that you ain’t on no spinnin’ ball, it’s the sky that’s spinning! LOOK!

            These and other points are why you are so chickenshit to provide me thatflat earth map … too many idiotic claims that look even dumber when you see it illustrated.

            LOL, I keep making you look worse and worse to any thinking individual(only sock puppet upvotes) and I can logically refute ANY point you have where your only defense is yet another unproven theory(heliocentricity, distance to stars and sun from earth, oblate spheroids, pear shaped earth, 23.5 degree tilts, reverse moon patterns, etc.. I guess… if you believe in magic anything is possible.).

            So.. you think I am scared to provide a map? LOL, here is another nail in your coffin but you are a sadist it seems:

            Produced by Cartographer and Civil Engineer Alexander Gleason (circa 1892) – Gleason’s map: (geography hasn’t changed since 1892)

            Click here for image

            ACCURATE – Flat Earth Map of the World As “It Is” – Scientifically and Practically Correct!
            SCIENTIFIC – Produced by Cartographer and Civil Engineer Alexander Gleason (circa 1892)
            AUTHENTIC – Origiinally Published by the Buffalo Type & Engraving Company, Buffalo, NY

            That IS what we live on, just was it was in 1892. That map can be used for sea navigation… try sea navigation with your BS globe near the ice wall and you’ll likely die lost at sea like so many other fools who believed the king’s $cience. Navigators can’t play pretend Globe games when they are sailing in dangerous waters using nothing but a map and their lives depend on it, well, most sailors. There have been a number of them in history who naively used a globe for navigation in the far south waters and paid the ultimate price for doing so and died a very cold death from getting lost at sea.

            It’s all you idiots do.. that and cheesy little mumbling youtube “proofs” with spacy music, that take 10 minutes to get to one ridiculous point.

            Well it take much longer to prove a point to someone who can’t grasp it, ya know? Again, YOU are the one who uses BS theories as proof and I am the one who uses math. Numbers don’t lie Al Mather – let’s see the MATHEMATICS that prove a canal is actually a convexly caving structure, completely defying the fact that they are laid out on level surfaces using a datum line beneath!

            You may still keep some stubborn/sleeping sheep asleep but the truth is like a freight train and it already left the station and you can continue to stand in front of it and get ran over again and again, that is your prerogative.

            I think more people on thedailysheeple(and everywhere else) are starting to consider this TRUTH more and more each day… that FLAT horizon line keeps staring them in the face never goes way after all + math isn’t a conspiracy, it’s logical and provable.

            This will become apparent to any thinking individual as time progresses… it’s not going away.

          • Gary

            Polaris and the other stars are only light years distant if you believe the fairy tale that the Earth is spinning ’round the sun. One fairy tale to support another.

            Simple trigonometry puts stars much closer than that. 🙂

          • Al Mather

            I see… so no mathematician in the last 100 or so years has bothered to ever think about this… No mathematician in the world has even spotted this obvious glitch in astronomic knowledge? Till of course Gary and the Fellate earthers .
            Run your maths as you call them by us Gary…prove to us the stars are just a few thousand miles away.
            While you are doing that please explain why those stars above rotate one way in the center of the flat earth disc… and the opposite way around all the points out by the ice wall that encircle us in your fantasy world.

          • Gary

            Sigh. Can’t you even use Google? I typed in “how to calculate the distance to a star” and the first result I quote below:

            “Astronomers can measure a star’s position once, and then again 6 months later and calculate the apparent change in position. The star’s apparent motion is called stellar parallax. The distance d is measured in parsecs and the parallax angle p is measured in arcseconds.”

            Simple trignometry can be used to calculate the distance to stars. But, because this gives an answer much closer than desired, astronomers must assume that the Earth is spinning and travelling 149.6 million km from the sun, to allow an assumed travel distance of ~300 million km between Summer and Winter. This gives a much larger triangle (of ~300 million km base), so the astronmers can say a star is light years away, rather than the thousand or so km it really is.

            However, for the above process to be scientific, such astronomers must demonstrate:

            a) That the Earth is 149.6 million km from the sun, something easily disproved by simple trigonometry (the sun is much closer).
            b) That the Earth is travelling around the sun, something disproved and documented on at least several occasions over the past century or two.

            The belief that stars are light years away is therefore not founded on science.

          • Al Mather

            “Simple trignometry can be used to calculate the distance to stars. But, because this gives an answer much closer than desired”
            So lets see that “simple trig” which gives the answer that the star is 3000 miles away.

          • Gary

            Refer to Earth Not a Globe, by Parallax and George Davey, p 102 -104.


            “The distance from London Bridge to the sea-coast at Brighton, in a straight line, is 50 statute miles. On a given day, at 12 o’clock, the altitude of the sun, from near the water at London Bridge, was found to be 61 degrees of an arc; and at the same moment of time the altitude from the sea-coast at Brighton was observed to be 64 degrees of an arc, as shown in fig. 58.


            By the same mode it may be ascertained that the distance from
            London of that part of the earth where the sun was vertical at the time (July 13th, 1870) the above observations were taken, was only 400 statute miles, as shown by dividing the base-line L, D, by the distance B, L.”

            Stars can be measured in the same way.

          • Al Mather

            Oh ..I see.. so a calculation made by a Flat Earth knuckle head 145 years ago proves the sun is 700 miles above us.

          • Gary

            You might not like what you’ve read about Parallax, but mathematics doesn’t lie, Al. 🙂

          • Al Mather

            But fellate earthers do…. As a rule.

          • Gary

            Are you referring to yourself?

          • Gary

            Are you arguing that mathematics can change with time?

          • Al Mather

            No. I’m saying garbage in…garbage out.

          • Al Mather

            So again Gary…please explain why those stars above that rotate one way in the center of your flat earth disc… rotate the opposite way around a different star.. looking south from the equator & from all the points out by those ice walls that encircle us on your fantasy flat world map.

          • Gary

            The stars in the South don’t rotate about any star, as Я0llyJ0g3r has already explained.

            If Sigma Octantis were a pole star (and the Earth were a ball), it would be visible from all locations in the Southern Hemisphere as Polaris is in the Northern Hemisphere.

          • Al Mather

            Sigma Octanis is a pole star.. faint.. but observed over the entire southern hemisphere as axial with the stars appearing to rotate clockwise around it..
            It can be observed identical in its appearance from Bolivia, Australia, and South Africa, ( see examples )and other points which would be spread ALL AROUND the circle of the flat earth map.
            Would be impossible in flat earth model.
            Please address this.




          • Sigma Octanis is a pole star.. faint.. but observed over the entire southern hemisphere

            All stars rotate East to West around Polaris just above the central North Pole like in a planetarium dome. The planetarium dome of our Earth however is so vast that the law of perspective doesn’t allow you to see all the stars from any one vantage point. You can however see Polaris, Ursa Major/Minor and other Northern constellations from every point on Earth all the way to the Southern Tropic of Capricorn. The supposed “South Pole star,” Southern Crux and other outer constellations conversely can NOT be seen from every point in the Southern Hemi”sphere” the way Polaris can from every point in the North. Nor do the Southern constellations circle around it West to East as is claimed. All stars rise more or less in the East and set in the West, with the angle/inclination being based on where you are on Earth and what direction you’re facing. – source: http://ifers.ace.st/t175-star-trails-in-the-northern-and-southern-hemisphere?highlight=pole+star

            “Another thing is certain, that from within the equator the north pole star, and the constellations Ursa Major, Ursa Minor, and many others, can be seen from every meridian simultaneously; whereas in the south, from the equator, neither the so-called south pole star, nor the remarkable constellation of the Southern Cross, can be seen simultaneously from every meridian, showing that all the constellations of the south – pole star included – sweep over a great southern arc and across the meridian, from their rise in the evening to their setting in the morning.But if the earth is a globe, Sigma Octantis, a south pole star, and the Southern Cross, a southern circumpolar constellation, they would all be visible at the same time from every longitude on the same latitude, as is the case with the northern pole star and the northern circumpolar constellations. Such, however, is not the case.” -Dr. Samuel Rowbotham, “Zetetic Astronomy, Earth Not a Globe!” (286)

          • Al Mather

            Deflecting…explain the identical opposite star trail rotation around Sigma Octanis ..observed in all the pictures..from all the various locations in all outward or “southern” directions from all positions on the flat earth map.

          • Not deflecting, explaining to someone who just can’t get it, big difference. Already showed you a video explaining it, already made a simple text example of a room with Christmas lights all over the walls, floors, and ceiling and a basket ball spinning in the middle to explain it, already explained to instead spin the room lined up perfectly with top and bottom axial points(axial lights/stars on the floor/ceiling) rather than the basket ball to get reversing star trails on the top and the bottom with both spinning opposite directions, already explained that when the room(sky) spins aligned with top and bottom axial points and we(the basketball/earth) stay still that you will observe circular patterns around the axial points on the floor and ceiling of the room(the sky) no matter which point on the side of the ball you are on but if it was the ball spinning instead you would get either gigantic circles/ovals near the axial points(not the pinwheel effect we currently observe) or horizontal LINES if viewed anywhere from the sides of that object so I I’m not leaving much left up to imagination on this one, in fact, I think I’ve completely covered the concept. Again, not my fault you can’t grasp these concepts.

          • Al Mather

            Except the only way the example YOU ARE USING works is if it is a ball. YOU claim the earth is a stationary flat disc with the sun and stars rotating over it in one direction. IF this was true explain the perspective of Counterclockwise rotation on star trails around an axis when facing north from the equator…and clockwise star trails around an axis when facing south from the equator IN ALL DIRECTIONS.

          • Because the SKY is moving over your head, spinning around Polaris, counterclockwise, CONNECTED to the same stars you view from the South(same starfield moving in the same direction, no parallax observed ever no matter your Earthly position), all moving as one unit over our heads creating star trails facing one way in the north and another in the south… a giant dome/sphere moving as one, the Egyptians called it Nut, the sky goddess.

          • Al Mather

            AGAIN…deflecting….GO LOOK AT your flat earth “map” …
            South is every outward direction… how would it be possible to view the stars all spinning around Sigma Octanis looking “south from Bolivia, Australia, and South Africa simultaneously and have the same view???

          • (Hint: absolutely how it would be on the beautiful blue rotating oblate spheroid though!)

            Not a chance! Our sky would look and behave much differently if we were on a spinning ball like seeing horizontal lines as star trails all across the sky at mid latitudes but we don’t see that though, we see circles.

            source: http://ifers.ace.st/t175-star-trails-in-the-northern-and-southern-hemisphere?highlight=star+trails

            This is all a matter of perspective(and scale) and trying to put a perspective warp into words and clearly explain it is very difficult so I am going to use images for this but these are not my images, I got them from this user davidkay from IFERS.ace.st – here is his full graphic and explanation: [Click here for image] I think he did an excellent job and his graphic is what ultimately made me understand (coupled with stellarium.org so I was able to observe it for myself because I take nobody’s word for it, I am not the trusting type).

            Here is a representation of what we see, from our perspective, when we view the land and the sky:
            [Click here for image]

            On the equator it would look like this: [click here for image]

            So this [click here for image] is the same as the graphic above if this pic was taken at the equator, it probably wasn’t but imagine it was. You can see the train tracks for a few miles but that’s it but the sky looks like it’s touching the train tracks but you & I know that’s not really true so we are seeing much more sky than we are land but nevertheless they both meet at look like they touch at the vanishing point, thus two separate horizons, a sky horizon and a land horizon.

            So this [click here for image] is the same as this [click here for image] (if it was taken at the equator) except in your example, Polaris, if that’s what it is, is a little higher on the horizon than the example graphic but I hope you understand it, it’s the same concept.

            These dots in this graphic [click here for image] represent the points where the star trails disappear out of view, where the sky horizon and the land horizon both meet. Refer to your pic again [click here for image] so the yellow dots on the graphic are where the star trails meet the rocks in the photo. The center dot in the star trail photo, if that is Polaris, would be in the middle of the smallest circle at the top of the dome in the graphic.

            However, here is a nice photo of star trails going every which way: [click here for image] – This guy is smart, he used 3 differnt colors to represent the 3 ways which the star trials seemingly go, he used white dots to represent the circular star trails, the yellow dots the represent the more or less horizontal ones you would see(that we CAN see in stellarium if you look straight up), then the red ones where they start to shift in the other direction(although in his graphic they don’t really start doing that yet but he said it’s not to scale at all), ultimately leading to a reverse circle at a certain point in the sky[happens to be about the location of sigma octanis currently], it’s not a pole-star rotation like in the north, just a certain point in the far southern sky.

            [click here for image 4.png] – color coded star trails graphic

            Here is his explanation of the phenomenon: [click here for image]

            It’s a massive perspective warp from us viewing the horizon as flat with a dome-shaped sky overhead.

            Here is his graphic: [click here for image]

            Here is the color coded picture to go along with the graphic: [click here for image]

            All of this info can be verified in stellarium and once you[if you] understand this concept you will also understand that the star trails absolutely cannot behave in this manner from the perpective of a spinning ball no matter it’s size.

            There ya go, some 33rd degree mason info without even having to join! 🙂

            Now when you understand these concepts and also that the sun and moon are equidistant and equisized all of those mason stained glass murals and other logos and graphics/images by them is viewed it is apparent why they always make the sun and moon equisized… because they ARE! It’s in-your-face secret knowledge that nobody can see but them because they know what they are looking at. [Click here for image] another example: [Click here for image]

          • Al Mather

            What a total mess of BS and made up graphics (sky horizon??? talk about making shit up to cover your BS!Lol!)…mental gymnastics and….. STILL… does NOT explain (in fact some graphics contradict) seeing the EXACT same star…surrounded by the EXACT same field of stars.. all rotating clockwise ..SIMULTANEOUSLY from ALL locations in the complete circle …looking in all 360 degrees of “south”on YOUR flat earth map!
            TRY AGAIN.. dude!
            And here’s the thing.. ANY CHILD can see how simply what is seen…is all explained by our being on a planet ….spinning west to east..there’s a star in the north.. and a star in the south that our axis point to ..and we spin..it is as simple as pie . IT ALL MAKES SIMPLE VISUAL AND LOGICAL SENSE.
            You idiots always talk about trusting what you see..LOL! Yet when it’s this obvious you hemorrhage dumb BS trying to come up with some kind of plausible explanation. Good job>

          • lol, predictable response but nonetheless it’s there for others to read, that’s why I did it, irrefutable logic for the thinking man/woman who is waking up.

            Your spinning ball IN NO WAY can produce CIRCULAR star trails… as in IMPOSSIBLE! The only way to obverse them would be if you were sitting ON the north pole and looking straight up but we can see circles from anywhere… because it’s a dome, like every ancient society already knew and wrote about until the world fell into evil hands and knowledge was kept for themselves but their time is running short and they know it.

            NASA is full of shit and steals money from us but their days are numbered also: youtube.com/watch?v=FGYG5PW4Jo4

            They are absolutely SATURATING the flat earth movement with paid disinfo agents, it’s really pathetic when you can see it and I’ll admit it will throw a few off but this TRUTH isn’t going away, the shape has never changed and isn’t going to now so get used to hearing about it from here on out.

            You ARE right though, children and hypnotized(simple minded) adults think they are spinning when anyone with common sense can see it is the sky that is spinning, that’s why the constellations HAVE NEVER CHANGED their shapes in all of recorded time. With moving stars that would be impossible like all of the other magic that needs to be possible for heliocentricity to work, lol.

            Southern star trails moving in an opposite direction than northern ones but NOT around a pole star are caused by our perspective of the sky. You surely wouldn’t be able to see the circles like you do in the far southern sky if it was the earth rotating unless you were on the south pole… which doesn’t even exist, lol!

            For your heliocentric model to work our “solar system” wouldn’t have planets revolving around the sun all nice and neat like in your fantasy graphics, no sir, you must remember that the sun is moving also, very very fast… supposedly, and we can’t forget pixie dust, leprechauns, and of course gravity(no pixie dust or leprechauns but I figured since we are talking magic may as well…) and since this magical, never before proven but accepted as reality force called gravity makes big things attract little things(but doesn’t make little things attract littler things) that would mean that your perfectly circular orbits of all of the planets around the sun would actually be spirals chasing the ever-moving sun through the galaxy from being pulled by the sun’s enormous gravitational field.

            But of course that doesn’t happen….. because the sun moves perfectly with the earth’s 1000mph atmosphere too? Perfectly with Polaris? Perfectly with every other star that never mores in relation to one another? Perfectly with the moon so we only ever see one side of it and have days with the sun and moon in the same sky? SURE!… sounds perfectly logical and TOTALLY possible… LOL!

            I’ll leave the reader with this undeniable proof below… remember.. don’t ultimately listen to either of us but DO THE MAT AND DON’T BE LAZY… numbers don’t lie.

            31.6 miles visible at sea level, not possible on a sphere and can’t be refuted: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4oT2EbDONs

            Check the numbers in the video, can’t argue with math! It’s FLAT!

          • Al Mather

            Wow … Long response.. And still NOWHERE in there does it address or explain the single point I am sticking with through your torrents of deflection and BS?..what is observed in the real world…seeing the exact same star and field of stars rotating around it …..IN EVERY DIRECTION one looks …. The 360 DEGREES of “south” on the flat earth map. How is it possible.

            The illogical…magical.. gibberish answer you keep trying to provide …tries lamely to come up with an explanation for how the southern rotation could be observed in ONE location/ perspective on the flat earth.

            STILL… Fails at explaining what is observed here on our beautiful blue sphere… Sigma Octanis… An axial star ,according to every valid reference source ,astronomer, photographer, star gazer , and all the photographic evidence … Is observed SIMULTANEOUSLY from Chile, Argentina, Bolivia, Madagascar, South Africa, India, Sri Lanka, New Zealand, Australia… and the seas in EVERY outward direction on the idiotic flat earth map… A physical impossibility.

          • Gary

            Nice star trails, but they’re all concentric, circular paths. Wouldn’t these go across the sky, rather than around a pole, were the Earth a moving, spinning ball (except at the axes of spin of the Earth)? Didn’t Я0llyJ0g3r already ask you this, and you deflected?

            Just curious to know what the globalist explanation for this is, if they have one.

          • Al Mather

            He ..and obviously you.. ( although I honestly believe you both grasp it perfectly)are having trouble grasping the simple astronomical concept that even amateur photographers or casual star gazers visualize and grasp so easily.

            The stars are fixed above and around us.. if the camera is focused on the distant axial point and the angle to it never changes as the Earth rotates… NO… it creates time exposures circles of the stars surrounding the axial point as the camera moves in a circle on the rotating planet…
            not sure how you two conceive it that way.

            If the camera was pointed AWAY from the distant axial point and plumb to the celestial equator … then YES lines going across the sky.




          • If that is true, Kitt Point must have been moved from a polar position after the circular star trail photos that are so common in their photographs were taken.

          • Kitt Point is a mid-latitude position thus circular star trails means no spinning ball and it is in fact the sky that is spinning so what exactly is your confusion about this? This is a VERY simple concept.

          • You are objecting to my proving your point?

          • Apologies, I misunderstood you. I’m going to do some 3d animations in Bryce so illustrate this concept.

          • I’m going to do some 3d animations in Bryce so illustrate this concept.

        • Reverend Draco

          Nobody will thank you for pseudoscience. . .

          • There is nothing pseudo about math

          • Reverend Draco

            I started studying science before I could ride a bicycle.

            I started high school with a degree in physics.

            I know too many people whose jobs rely on the proper application of physics to be taken in by a bunch of hooey.

            I don’t read the DSM for the same reason – I have no use for pseudoscience.

          • Agreed with the DSM5, that is psuedoscience, so are Foucault Pendulums though. I just wish you would take an honest, deeper look at the stuff I am posting, you’ll find that it is accurate. I only want the truth for myself and for you and there is too much evidence for me to dismiss on this topic that I’ve been studying now approaching 2 years(I believe I would have found a hole in it if there as one), like high powered zooms that can see land much farther than the sphere dictates is possible, how you cannot even entertain that thought is beyond me because I see it as irrefutable proof. If there is something wrong with my math… ever, please let me know, I don’t want/need to be “right,” I want to be accurate because that’s far more important to me.

        • It is not Paranoia

          Hell yeah!

          You debate with style, kudos for that!

          Do you have any idea why people keep saying it’s round even when you show them these facts?

          WHY is Suez Canal 120 miles long and NOT CURVING? WHY? Someone please tell me, because honestly I don’t understand. From that I just understand that the Earth is NOT round.

          Is it gravity or mirage? :))

          Or oblate spheroid maybe?? :))

          • Thanks! I don’t understand what the mental block is, they can see through almost everything else but I guess this is too much to handle, I dunno.

          • Gary

            I think at the moment they generally claim its mirage – refraction of light, but as usual, without any proof.

            Not much you can do for people who don’t believe their own senses. They are more like sheep than they may care to admit. They’ll come around eventually, when enough of the rest of the flock realise.

          • Wise words and so true.

  • Many many many rocks to come: youtube.com/watch?v=bE0BqNl_M7Q – just as it has before, it’s cyclical.

  • Contained in this video is what you call Planet X: youtube.com/watch?v=bE0BqNl_M7Q

  • David

    it is not because of planet x or niburu! when comet Ison came through our Galaxy it went straight through the Asteroid belt between Mars & Jupiter causing our Galaxy to become a Shooting Gallery.

  • sam

    N.A.S.A. Has a Sm budget Like 3% For Sky Watching and its a Big Ass Sky. As for Planet X So What? Gods not Done with the World Yet Give him time.He’ll get Around to Whipping us Out. alol