This New Tank Drone Could Spell the End for Human Freedom

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After 15 years of fighting the War on Terror, Americans have become thoroughly acquainted with automated warfare. Drones are no longer a novelty, especially after Obama took office and started deploying them like there was no tomorrow. However, there is no reason to think that these machines are the end point of automated warfare. If anything, they are just the beginning. As technology advances, we can expect to see more robots show up in every active and supporting role the military has to offer. That of course, will include land based drones.

Despite spending two decades developing land based drones, it’s not the US who is going to break ground in this field, but a Russian state-owned corporation known as Rosoboronexport. They’ve just developed the very first tank drone, and they are expected to sell it on the international market in the very near future.

Rosoboronexport expects that the robotic combat vehicle will mostly be used to provide fire support for counter-terrorism units, reconnaissance units and possibly light or mechanized infantry forces. “The Uran-9 will be particularly useful during local military and counter-terror operations, including those in cities. Its use will significantly reduce personnel casualties,” the Russian state-owned export company said in a statement.

Each Uran-9 combat vehicle is armed with a 2A72 30mm automatic cannon, a 7.62mm machine gun and M120 Ataka anti-tank guided missiles, giving the machines a significant punch. The inclusion of the Ataka missiles gives the diminutive robot the capability to engage and destroy the most modern battle tanks from ranges as great as 8,000 meters. The robots are also fitted with an array of sensors—including a laser warning system and target detection, identification and tracking equipment.

The Uran-9 system is not just a single vehicle. It’s a complete system that can be deployed with an infantry unit. The system consists of two robotic reconnaissance/fire support vehicles, a truck to carry those robots and a mobile command post.

Make no mistake however, this has far greater implications than airborne drones ever did. This isn’t just going to be a ground based version of a reaper drone. It’s going to change the game for warfare, and for human society. And even if it doesn’t do this right away, it is a first step towards radically changing society, and not for the better. Here’s why:

The history of human warfare has always been just that. Human warfare. There has always been a person somewhere in the loop. Specifically, there has always been some guy with a gun or a sword or a spear, who is doing the dirty work of someone more powerful than him. He is the lowest common denominator of any military. He is intrinsic. Even more so than naval or air power. The infantryman is ultimately the most important contributor to any war, because every tank, plane, missile, and ship is deployed with the intent of helping him gain and hold ground. The buck always stops with an armed human being.

If we begin to automate land warfare, and start replacing these grunts with machines, it’s going to irrevocably change society. For most of human history, the rulers have always had to find some way to convince other people to fight in their name. They’ve done this either by compensation with money, loot, and slaves, or with some kind of ideology. But what happens when machines take the role of the grunt? What happens if the elites no longer have to convince people to fight for them?

It means that they no longer have to please us. They don’t even have to consider us. Today, even the most tyrannical of regimes have a line they can’t cross if they don’t want a rebellion, especially if their armed forces consist of conscripts. But the day these land based drones start to replace infantrymen, is the day any government with sufficient funds can do whatever they want to their population.

And they don’t have to fully replace human soldiers for this to happen. Every military has a certain number of people who will follow orders no matter what, as well as a number of people who won’t do things like say, round-up private firearms or kill their civilian countrymen. The government just need enough drones that are advanced enough to replace those who are not compliant, and they can do whatever they want to their population.

Of course, the worst case scenario would be a world where no infantrymen are required, because then the success of any rebellion would hinge on nothing more than how many dollars and factories the ruling class control. Even in the United States, the land of the Second Amendment, the population would not have the weapons required counter such a threat.

In other words, every government that can afford land based drones, has the potential to turn into an unstoppable tyranny. In the past, when the foot-soldiers of the government were made of flesh, and the population held weapons that could hurt them, there was only so much a government could do. But with tanks like the Uran-9, and the more advanced land based drones that are sure to come, resistance will be futile more times than not.

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  • Mike

    Yea, joystick warriors we are screwed.

    • 1555

      See my comment above.

  • Gil G

    So? It’s been noted for decades that Libertarian militia wannabees could never take down a modern military as if the gun was somehow the ultimate weapon.

    • Mike

      hit and run warfare works great against any military.

      • 1555

        See my detail post above. We had to study the WWII partisans, in school, in civic education in Europe in schools. Amazingly with a little thinking often a dozen guys protected a village from 10,000 troupes. Studying techniques of these partisans, specially when they knew their topography, it is a beautiful thing WHAT they achieved.

    • kirkpatrick

      So you’re a f*cking asshole, that’s what.

    • kirkpatrick

      Wouldn’t you love to send in the troops to take away all the guns! But the problem is, there are 100 Million gun owners with 300 Million guns, and only about 300 Thousand sheeple soldiers like you who would commit mass murder “to protect small children”. We have you outnumbered 1000 to 1. Bring it on.

      • Meltonmark

        American women willingly assist in the mass-murder of unborn children every year. 1,25million a year just in the USA alone.

        • Reverend Draco

          American firefighters put out millions of structure fires each year before they’ve been started. . .

        • 1555

          Meltonmark, as a woman who never needed an abortion, this is a deflecting from the main subject.
          Because some men think that by God’s grace a woman is graced when some weirdo, or a family member forces his d… inside of her, and then there is something there grows inside of her….as a horrendous reminder of that rape.

          It is important to remember that 1 in 5 US women is INCESTED, often resulting in conception of a RAPE child. So politely I would suggest we stick to the subject at hand here.

      • 1555

        Yes, Gil the Shill, and how interesting that UN agenda, of worldwide “small arms treaty” = disarmament, was announced by what was prefaced “but these are children (killed), so nobody would question it. Some did – read book “Nobody Died in Sandyhook”.

        It explains a lot. Specially the boy on national TV show who when asked about hearing the shots, squirmed, and said:”Yeh, it sounded like our janitor throwing things in a closet”, after which the TV show host patted his head, and changed the subject. Now, many bring up with that one that every American child can tell a shot from broom being thrown in a closet (thanks to our violence crazy Hollywood movie industry, and very lax movie rating).

        So UN disarmament agenda is the shadow hand behind Obama’s executive actions.

    • SP_88

      That’s just poor perception. The gun is just a tool. Battles are won or lost with people.
      It’s the leftists who think that guns are bad that have this constant misconception about guns. They never get the point of “guns don’t kill people, people kill people”. And because they are stuck with this flawed ideology, they will never understand why people have guns and why people think that they are better off with guns than without. And they will never understand why their gun control laws never have a positive effect on crime. They don’t understand the difference between good people, bad people and people who just enjoy killing people because they are sick in the head. They focus on the guns and never consider the people.
      And when it comes to civilians going against the military, they will never understand why people think that they can win against a presumably superior force because they don’t understand people. They look at the guns owned by civilians, then they look at the firepower of the U.S. military and think that civilians don’t stand a chance. And of course with such a two dimensional view it’s understandable that they would think that.
      But in reality, it’s all about people. It’s about what people are willing to do, what line will they cross, who’s side will the majority of them take, etc. And in the end, people will mostly do the right thing. They will not gun down their friends and families. And they won’t stand by while other people mow down their friends and families either. And when they go to stop them, they will take with them whatever superior firepower they have, which will certainly level the playing field.
      So to assume that because the US military has better guns that they will automatically win any battle against civilians is a foolish assumption.
      Stop looking at the guns and start looking at the people. And this goes for more than just civilians fighting tyranny, it will put the failures of gun control into perspective as well.

      • Reverend Draco

        Chicago – Gun Control Central – Gun murders, total deaths, 2010 – 436

        Vermont – Gun Control KMMFA Central – Gun murders, total deaths, 2010 – 2

        Yeah. . . gun control works so well. . .

        • SP_88

          It’s undeniable that their gun control has had the opposite effect on crime. All they can do now is lie about it and hope that people are stupid enough to believe them.
          Based on the rise in gun ownership, I don’t think very many people are that stupid. Or at least they are slowly coming around. Either way, it’s progress I am happy to see.

      • Meltonmark

        Hence the constant propaganda and indoctrination. Why bother fighting your own people if you can just manipulate their mindset? I accept that many people who visit sites such as this, are aware of government manipulation. But I wonder if most realise the extent to which this occurs? Once your eyes are opened, you see it literally everywhere! And I do mean EVERYWHERE…kiddies tv programmes, newspapers, tv ‘chat’ shows, movies, even ordinary tv series which on the surface may appear harmless, but which constantly carry the ‘correct’ messages, and reinforcement.

        • SP_88

          Yes, it is everywhere. They have spared no expense trying to put subliminal messages into everything we watch, and wording things in such a way as to change the way people think. Most people are blissfully unaware of how much this is effectively changing them. But the effect is ruined once you become aware of it.
          For me, instead of it changing the way I think, it pissed me off that they are trying to screw with my mind.
          I might not see every single attempt they make, but I see enough of them. Fortunately my mind is made up, and no stupid advertisement or tv show is going to change it. And I make sure to point out these things to people whenever I see it. Sometimes I am surprised to see someone else who also sees through their propaganda.
          Hopefully someday I will see well informed people often enough to not be surprised anymore.

      • 1555

        So many of the leftist who are freaked out about guns never held one ! So they are clueless about it, and buy all propaganda that is dished out.

        Yet when one of them is attacked and then saved by an armed member of the public, they are in a shock, at how calm the person with that gun was when they saved their butt.
        We had to learn how to shoot since we were 8, in school, with full safety training. And so nobody was scared of guns !

        • SP_88

          American high schools used to have a marksmanship class and many students grew up around firearms and it was part of their culture.
          But the gun grabbers have succeeded in removing that from the high school curriculum and replacing it with fear of guns. They want everyone to be as afraid of guns as they are so that they won’t be able to embrace the 2nd amendment and defend themselves and their country. People who refuse to give in to this cowardly nonsense have been demonized as gun nuts and domestic terrorists.
          Fortunately there are so many people who still have firearms and raise their children around firearms that this fear tactic is mostly a failure. So many of the people I meet are strong supporters of the 2nd amendment, and here in CT which is a democrat state, there are a lot of people who own firearms and embrace the 2nd amendment.
          One of the tactics used by the gun grabbers is to try and convince people that gun ownership is in decline and that owning a firearm is an outdated idea. But nothing could be further from the truth. Gun ownership is actually on the rise, and not just a little, but a substantial rise. Even in this terrible economy gun companies and companies that make gun accessories are doing very well. The firearms industry is among the few industries that have rising stocks. The gun grabbers will tell you that the profits are driven by fear mongering and anti-government ideas. So I ask, which is it? Is gun ownership in decline because it’s outdated, or is gun ownership on the rise because of fear mongering? Either way, the gun grabbers are full of crap. They are a bunch of lying liars that lie. They lie about the statistics, they lie about gun crime, and they lie about the effectiveness of gun control. They lie about everything. They will tell any lie they can to try and take away our rights.
          And they aren’t doing it because they want to make us safer. That’s just another lie from the lying liars.
          They want to disarm us so they can control us. It’s impossible for a tyrannical government to control a well informed and well armed population. So they are desperately trying to dumb down the people and disarm them.
          At some point they will have to give up on trying to disarm us. At that point they will have a choice to make. Either they will have to give up their agenda, or they will have to go up against an armed population and hope for the best.
          Their agenda to overthrow the Syrian government has been a massive failure. Once Russia got involved it was all over. And now they are in the same position with them as they will be with us. Either they will have to give up, or go to war.
          Wish all the confusing and conflicting information about what they are doing, I don’t know if they are just a bunch of idiots who are screwing around with people, or if this is all part of an act to distract us from something else.

          • Reverend Draco

            May I repost this elsewhere?

            I’ll give as full credit as I can, ‘Original post by SP_88″

          • SP_88

            Absolutely. People need to know the truth.

          • Reverend Draco

            All I needed was the part about the lying liars and gun control – the last 2 paragraphs would simply have confused the hoplophobic anti-rights bigoted lying liar I was dealing with.

            Thank you.

            (Originally posted to a Disqus thread by user SP_88) leads. . .

          • SP_88

            Your welcome.

          • SP_88

            I just noticed that I had a misprint. The last paragraph says, “Wish all the confusing and conflicting information…..”, should say, “With all the……”. I hope it doesn’t confuse anyone, but I think when people read it they’ll know what I meant.

          • 1555

            Thanks – great points ! My husband still has his highschool marksman trophies.

            One world order masters have been working on this control attempt for many decades. There are many cracks in their plans. Yet they keep pushing on. Great Britain thinking about separating from Euro is a really big possible crack in their very first success (Eurozone). Switzerland opting out of open borders is a weeping sore for them. The more people awaken to how they are being lied to and blatantly manipulated, the better.

            Like this current farce about zika virus. There is NO proven definite connection between the Zika (which has always been a very mild illness causing virus) and the small heads in South America.

            There are over 45,000 small head in the US -without Zika- just from various reasons…early head injury, Glyphosate, and such. But the lunatic greedy laboratories are now working on DESTROYING all mosquitoes who could POSSIBLY carry zika, that is NOT proven to cause small heads (The top WHO spokesperson told us this).

            Does anyone consider that mosquitoes are a very important source of food for birds, lizards, fish, and such ? Next we would see “Millions of starving birds in Brazil, scientists are puzzled why did these birds starved to death….” , ;like they are doing after Fukushima.

          • SP_88

            They’re changing the world in drastic ways. And if it feels like nobody has noticed, it’s because of the way they are doing it. For instance the marksmanship class was phased out, probably using budgetary cuts as an excuse. The students already enrolled in it were allowed to finish and no new classes were offered. So it was only a few years before the school was full of students who had never even seen the class.
            People are changing things nowadays with less and less concern about the ramifications of their actions. They are making rash decisions without thinking it through and they are changing things that cannot be changed back.
            Once they release those genetically modified mosquitoes there is no way to undo it. Birds and bats and spiders will start eating them and who knows what the consequences of that will be. If they accidentally kill off all the mosquitoes we are screwed. Foolish decisions like this could end up killing off the human race along with a lot of other things. I wish these people would just leave nature alone. They don’t know what they are doing, no matter how much they claim that they do. And one day these egotistical people will screw up and we will all suffer the consequences.
            And ultimately this is all about the money anyway. If they can scare the people into believing that they need to be vaccinated against some made up virus or a virus that has been exaggerated regarding it’s severity, then people will run out and get vaccinated thinking that they will be safe from whatever fake germs they are scared of. The whole thing is so ridiculous. Look at how they have everyone so scared of chicken pox. They actually shut down a whole hospital wing and quarantined everyone because of chicken pox. It’s all fear mongering and scare tactics. And no matter how ridiculous this is, people still fall for it. They run around panicking about something that is completely harmless and the whole thing looks like some sort of sad comedy. And the media will run the story over and over to drill it into people’s heads that this should be taken seriously. If people were capable of critical thinking, this whole thing would grind to a halt because nobody would go along with this charade.
            Unfortunately the smart people and the critical thinkers are becoming a minority and the loonies have taken over the asylum.

          • 1555

            Whenever they are plotting something, there is a distraction – 100%. When CERN burned we were hit with the ‘shooting in France”. and so on.

    • Reverend Draco

      Here – have another paint thinner cocktail.

      Name me a standing army that has ever defeated a guerrilla force.

      I dare you.

      • 1555

        Specially since the guerrilla usually has a local support, and knows its natural layout, with hideouts.

        • Reverend Draco

          Yup!

      • Gil G

        How about all of history? Then again Walmart warriors only dream of being militia until it they actually have risk fighting such as the Bundy mob.

        • Reverend Draco

          Yes. . . all of history. Name one.

          No hurry.

          • Gil G

            I’d argue for the opposite – what militia force defeated a military force? Some like to cite America but George Washington commanded an army and generally despised the militias for their incompetency.

          • Razedbywolvs

            Ya but Gorge Washington’s a idiot. He lost almost every battle.

          • Gil G

            But it was the militia who ran away at every chance since technically they have a choice to fight or not.

          • Reverend Draco

            And yet – the Standing Army was ultimately sent fleeing for their lives. . .

          • Razedbywolvs

            Of course they ran away every chance they got.
            Standing in a single file line in an open field to catch bullets from other people standing in a single file line is stupid.
            Assuming you didn’t have the choice to opt out would you rather join a standing army or a militia

          • Reverend Draco

            Ok. . . so you can’t name one.

            I already knew you’d come up short.

            Now you know, too.

    • RandyJ/ProudSurvivor

      Last time I checked Gil, “Libertarian militias” have kept US forces engaged for nearly fifteen years in Iraq and Afghanistan.

      • Reverend Draco

        Not only “engaged,” but completely bogged down. . .

      • Gil G

        Rather politics do. The terrorist cells would last long if they were free to carpet bomb the area.

        • RandyJ/ProudSurvivor

          That’s funny, because the Russians carpet bombed parts of Afghanistan and it didn’t stop the Mujahideen. Are you suggesting that in the event of a civil uprising in the US, that the government utilize carpet bombing to bring the revolutionaries to heel?

          • sunshine

            That’s exactly what he wants the USGov to do.

  • SP_88

    If it can be built, it can be destroyed. It is another step towards automated tyranny, but we’re not there yet. Hopefully the people will find the balls to engage these evil elitists and stop this before it becomes too powerful to resist.
    People have a bad habit of waiting until the last minute. People typically won’t do what’s necessary until they realize that the time is up and it’s now or never. But when they wait like this they run the risk of going past the point of no return.
    There is going to be a time when the computers are smart enough to design weapons on their own. And they will be able to design weapons that we couldn’t even conceive of. And we could be defeated in a war against machines in a day. And it would be easy because they are not concerned about losing a few robots. They will just build more. They have no feelings and no fear. And any attack lead by machines will be swift and brutal. We don’t stand a chance.
    It won’t be like the movies, like Terminator, with robot tanks and flying machines going around shooting lasers and whatnot at people and missing their target like we do. Every shot they fire will be a fatal shot. They won’t miss. And they won’t ride around looking for us and not find us, they will be able to see us through walls and wherever we hide with infrared cameras and night vision.
    Long before the first shot is fired, we will have already lost. So unless we take care of this soon, we will be screwed. We will not recognize the time when it’s now or never because we won’t be dealing with other people. Computers won’t be a threat to us until they are a threat to us. But by then it will be too late.
    Since we already know that this is coming, we can do something about it. I hope we do.

  • Reverend Draco

    Drones, by virtue of being computers, have no religion.

    Just like you, by virtue of not being educated, have no fucking idea what you’re talking about.

    • Meltonmark

      Politicians reflect their electorate. Most people is the West are no longer Christian. You [collectively] sowed the chaff, now you reap the whirlwind.
      You were the ones who spat at the idea of G-d. It was you who indoctrinated the Western world with the evils of abortion, LGBT, Feminism, Darwinism etc. Now you have no where to go, no ideological basis on which to mount a counter-offensive. Don’t cry now. Everlastingly too late, eh?

      • Reverend Draco

        I know. . . the evils of promoting education over superstition are terrible.
        How sad that demons no longer cause illness, but microbes. . .
        How sad that soap and water helps prevent the spread of microbes that cause disease.

        Funny thing – most people are Christian and they elect people based more on that than on facts or logic or even what the candidate has done in the past – as long as they claim the same religion, it’s all good.

        The fail is stronk with you.

        • CHARLES S

          Get your head checked. YOU have some serious mental issues you freak, draco.

          • Reverend Draco

            Says the3 retard who believes in fairy tales. . .

    • CHARLES S

      Neither do you!!

      • Reverend Draco

        I’ll put my education against yours and any other 2 people you know.

        Back to your cave, goatherder.

        • CHARLES S

          Your education??? You mean the one you got from the “Special Needs Learning Disabled School?! I don’t think so Freak! Go back to your cave and take your prehistoric mentally retarded family members with you. Or better yet go do your goat so that you can get your frustrations taken cre of….

          • Reverend Draco

            Dude. . . seriously. . . you need to see a doctor about your projection issues. . .

            You guys are the ones who “think” (and I use the term loosely) that there are such things as computers with religion. . .

            Anyone with a gradeschool education knows that’s a bunch of bullsh- oh. . . right. . .

  • Anothereno

    at least arm them with a nuclear self destruct that initiates when it becomes incapacitated so you kill the people that take it out…

    Jeez…..

    • Reverend Draco

      I know, right?

  • Kevin Harrison

    THAT is some scary shit

    • 1555

      Just remember that in WWII these simple tanks were taken out/blown up by partisans every single day somewhere. These people were starving, in a war, and took out many tanks. Manned, and unmanned/drone tank , are a tank. Simple.

      • Reverend Draco

        Billion dollar tank, meet $5 Molotov coktail.
        Now, say “goodbye,” tank.

        • 1555

          Exactly, that was what these guys did. And also various cut through supports on bridges, false bridges, etc. Flame throwers made of molotov coctail in canning jars. etc. Now they will try to outlaw canning jars, LOL.

  • 1555

    OK, the WWII partisans knew how to get rid of tanks, with people in them, or unmanned, they are pretty much the same. There are ways people can protect themselves from these machines.
    Study world war II, and what the partisans did. They had a lot less then there is available today, and they did amazing things with that little.

  • Pandeism Is Possible

    The human soldier, at least, can decide enough is enough and refuse to follow the basest of orders — to wipe out a whole village, a nursery, a civilization. No obstacle for the mechanized.

  • jim_robert

    Solution: have them running Windows ME, Windows 95, or Windows Vista or any other garbage from MS. They’ll break down in an hour

  • CHARLES S

    Just found out that Reverend Psycho Draco got out of the nut house a few years ago and hasn’t been normal for quite some time. ALERT: do not engage this freak in any kind of debate or conversation; no telling what this sicko will say or do ( his family members and neighbors are constantly on high alert due to his ‘erratic behavior’). Don’t let his demeanor fool you.

    • Reverend Draco

      This is what happens when people believe in fairy tales – they’ll invent all manner of nonsense, believing it to be true – just like the other fairy tales.

      But then – a person who will fall for anything will do anything, without thought.

  • Posthuman

    If the barrel is thermite-proof, that is.

  • 1555

    Thank you for a very good intellectual assessment. Yet in history whenever people had to defend their loved ones,and themselves, they seemed to have figured out how to (despite casualties).
    If the people do lay down, they will be killed. If the resist some would be killed. Eventually the movers and shakers might run out of RESOURCES for the manufacturing of these machines, and then, the people might get a breather. There are a lot more of people than those sending machines.

  • 1555

    And in an afterthought – we often reap what we expect. If you expect all you have written here, are you also a subject to the outcome ? Why not expect a different outcome, you might experience it. Blessings.