Shock: Conservative New York Times Columnist Calls For Repealing The Second Amendment

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In a Thursday op-ed for the establishment New York Times, supposed conservative Bret Stephens called for the full on repeal of the Second Amendment in the wake of the largest mass shooting in American history.

Stephens, who is also paid by MSNBC to appear on television to discredit actual conservatives, started out his piece by claiming that he “never understood the conservative fetish for the Second Amendment,” a clue that perhaps he never really was a conservative in the first place.

He then goes on to list various “studies” that have also been specifically cited by leftist gun control groups in the past as if that somehow validates him openly calling for an all out gun ban. (while laughably claiming he isn’t)

From a personal-safety standpoint, more guns means less safety. The F.B.I. counted a total of 268 “justifiable homicides” by private citizens involving firearms in 2015; that is, felons killed in the course of committing a felony. Yet that same year, there were 489 “unintentional firearms deaths” in the United States, according to the Centers for Disease Control. Between 77 and 141 of those killed were children.

From a national-security standpoint, the Amendment’s suggestion that a “well-regulated militia” is “necessary to the security of a free State,” is quaint. The Minutemen that will deter Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong-un are based in missile silos in Minot, N.D., not farmhouses in Lexington, Mass.

From a personal liberty standpoint, the idea that an armed citizenry is the ultimate check on the ambitions and encroachments of government power is curious. The Whiskey Rebellion of the 1790s, the New York draft riots of 1863, the coal miners’ rebellion of 1921, the Brink’s robbery of 1981 — does any serious conservative think of these as great moments in Second Amendment activism?

This is clearly not the opinion of an actual conservative but rather someone working for the establishment who on one hand continually claim they only want “common sense” gun reform while on the other calling for the wholesale repeal of the right to own firearms by private citizens.

Stephens then lists reasons he believes that liberals continue to lose the gun control battle, essentially arguing that the supposed facts that the left puts out are actually lies but instead of fighting against them we should aim for a loftier goal of ending the Second Amendment altogether.

In fact, the more closely one looks at what passes for “common sense” gun laws, the more feckless they appear. Americans who claim to be outraged by gun crimes should want to do something more than tinker at the margins of a legal regime that most of the developed world rightly considers nuts. They should want to change it fundamentally and permanently.

There is only one way to do this: Repeal the Second Amendment.

Repealing the Amendment may seem like political Mission Impossible today, but in the era of same-sex marriage it’s worth recalling that most great causes begin as improbable ones. Gun ownership should never be outlawed, just as it isn’t outlawed in Britain or Australia. But it doesn’t need a blanket Constitutional protection, either. The 46,445 murder victims killed by gunfire in the United States between 2012 and 2016 didn’t need to perish so that gun enthusiasts can go on fantasizing that “Red Dawn” is the fate that soon awaits us.

Apparently Stephens believes his readers are complete morons.

Consider this logic. He wants to literally get rid of the Constitutional protection of owning a firearm while claiming they should never be outlawed? That is a stunningly perfect example of liberal logic if I have ever seen one.

Make no mistake, gun grabbers on both sides of the aisle are lining up in yet another attempt at restricting and or outright banning private gun ownership in America. This New York Times op-ed is just the latest example in a long list of admissions by the gun control left that this has never been about “common sense” reform but rather has always been about restricting Americans from owning weapons themselves.

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  • pointman_12

    it’s all fun in games until someone gets an eye put out…morons…we are the worlds largest standing army when we are armed…against foreign or domestic…the left will never understand…ever…they are a sickness with no cure…

  • Joel W

    Go right ahead. Repeal it. Today. But good luck confiscating the millions upon millions of firearms in public hands currently. DHS’s 2.5 billion rounds will not make a difference.

  • roger

    all that can be said is, come and get them………if you think you can……..

    • Jeri Brace

      national Guard in Massachusetts tried that against armed civilian Military Veterans several years ago and lost their asses. something like 40 Veterans Dead & 75 National Guardsmen dead. Not going to happen.

      • gazoo3

        Link please.

      • Billy Two Knives

        I need evidence supporting that allegation. Please provide a link.

  • Lewie Paine

    “The Republican wing of the Marxist junta in America has been waging war on private ownership of firearms since Lincoln first squatted in the Offal Office. The state is only opposed to the PRIVATE ownership of weapons.”

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8cabe913f05e57edb5f8a8ced9137b4b752ee9fcdcac5dc4f1090e33ba309f35.jpg

    “A movement to repeal would reset the entire conversation, bring honesty to the dialog since the stark reality of absolute disarmament would be imminent and possibly lead to revolutionary arborists tending the Tree of Liberty.”

    http://zerogov.com/?p=5368

    • Laurence Almand

      “Offal Office” is spelled Oval, so whoever wrote that statement should take a refresher course in English. (Offal means waste, and garbage, so perhaps that spelling is appropriate.)

      • Lewie Paine

        I think that was the intent.

  • Cracker122049

    These traitors will never stop and are going to force the legal patriotic citizens to protect their own constitution because the government is loaded with pure traitor scum. I have always said that no matter what wee do they are going to bring the fight to us. The smell of revolution gets stronger all the time and for that im sad but its oh so true!

  • Mike

    That columnist is a moron. I will never give up my God given rights.

  • ALberto

    One thought here. The Bolshevik Paradise of Chicago.

  • anonymous4u4me

    There are no conservatives at the NYT.

  • Kubrickian

    The Problem, Reaction, Solution of the Hegelian Dialectic is a tired routine they think they can keep on repeating on the American people.

  • darkhorse

    Shock?? The Zionist NY Times speaking the truth about what they want??? Yes, you could say it is quite a shock for Zionists to say something true…. because it NEVER HAPPENS…

  • Tatiana Covington

    Repeal? In your dreams, moron.

  • Gil G

    Actually amending the 2A is what’s needed to gun nuts hiding behind it.

    • SP_88

      These “gun nuts” you speak of are more often than not the victims of you liberal leftists who are doing most of the shooting.
      People “hiding behind” the 2nd amendment should be hiding behind cover so they don’t get shot by some leftist nut job with a gun.
      People who have had guns their whole lives, and have been around guns their whole lives are not hiding behind anything. They are standing up for a right that they shouldn’t have to argue with idiots over. They are not the ones doing all the shooting.
      More often than not it’s some leftist who has just gone out and bought the gun or guns for the purpose of committing the shooting with.
      Apparently Stephen Paddock is a registered democrat. Big surprise.

    • Laurence Almand

      As a long-time member of the NRA and a CCW permit holder, I am not “hiding” behind anything. I am not a “gun nut” or anything of the kind. I am a proud US citizen who believes in the right of self-protection, from both criminals and corrupt government bureaucrats who would like nothing better than to destroy democracy and set up a Socialist state.
      (Check out the Nazi Weapons Law of 1938 and the Gun Control Act of 1968.)

  • Mayday911us

    Well good luck with trying to wrangle up the 500 million firearms in the us.

  • SP_88

    Who is dumb enough to believe that this turd was ever a conservative? He spews leftist nonsense and propaganda, supports leftist policies and fights against anyone on the right. In what sense is he a conservative? Bret Stephens is a leftist nut job with an agenda. He’s no different than any other mainstream media pundit.

    • Laurence Almand

      If he wrote a pro-gun article the Times would probably fire him. He just wants to keep his job.

      • SP_88

        That could be true. But that would kind of make him a sellout, wouldn’t it? I would question his ethics and morals. If he is willing to say things he doesn’t truly believe just to make money, I wouldn’t consider him to have a good, moral character. Especially if he was able to find a job working for a news corporation that held the same beliefs as he does.
        I would also question whether a person with good conservative values would do such a thing. That’s something I would expect from a typical leftist.

  • Andrew Miller

    Republican and Conservative are not necessarily synonymous. Never have been.

    • g.johnon

      not even close. in fact, as a true republican, i will state that there are no republicans in the republican party.

  • CALMLIKEABOMB

    There’s a HUGE problem with this! Not just that it essentially steals the rights
    of the people, but it would also unwittingly disarm ALL agents of our government!
    There are NO special privileges for agents of government! If Citizens can’t posses
    firearms then neither will agents of government, since they are merely Citizens
    themselves!!!

  • CALMLIKEABOMB

    This is why you don’t register your weapons with the people most likely to attempt
    confiscating them!!

  • Splatcat

    Let’s talk about eliminating some amendments to the Constitution If someone is gonna take the secon Amendment away from the people you might as well take the 4th the 5th 14th and 15th amendment As well and let’s not forget the 1st .
    Let’s face it you’re not gonna stop this stupid s*** by attempting to eliminate guns in this country we are not Australia we will not go quietly into the night .
    Nobody talked about Fertilizer and diesel fuel control after Oklahoma City .
    Nobody talked about taken away My grandmothers’ Pressure cooker .
    Nobody talks about the 40000 plus people that die every year in car accidents The speed limit in this country on average is 70 miles an hour .why our cars allowed to go a 140 plus .Nobody wants to outlaw cell phones in cars for distracted drivers .
    Nobody wants to talk about the other things that kill alcohol drugs Fast food .
    It’s always the gun which is nothing more than a machine that has to be operated by a human being people are crazy fix that .Stop texting conversations have a face-to-face .Social media makes it too easy to separate from reality .
    These are just my thoughts and my Opinion .
    Some people may not Think the 2nd amendment matters now but you will later .

    • Laurence Almand

      Every year more than 100,000 people die from medical errors. Shall we close all the hospitals?

      • g.johnon

        no, but we should jail a bunch of big pharma corporate board members and hospital managers as well.

    • g.johnon

      and how many people do we send to die in foreign lands while protecting corporate global looting under the big lie of fighting for our freedoms?

  • John C Carleton

    Why is that a shock. The MSM is owned, lock, stock and barrel, by rabid zionist.
    Zionist are cowards and do not like for their victims to have the ability to fight back or protect themselves or children from rape and murder.

  • Jim

    Bret Stephens is a jerkwad, doesn’t have a clue what he is spouting off at theouth about.

  • rich

    First of all, there is NO way Stephens is a conservative. NO WAY! Secondly, if Obozo would have been able to convince Congress to get rid of the 2nd Amendment while that cluck was in the White House we would be living under a dictatorship right now. That candy ass knew damn well that if he tried anything stupid like that this country would have been in a civil war that would have made the previous one look like a playground argument. Just look south to Venezuela and see how those people are starving because they allowed a jerk to take over the country.

  • Joe Joe

    There are photos of this guy, somwhere, with a dead girl or a live boy.

  • Sloopofwar

    Be hard to do with all this firepower in the hands of law abiding citizens. Includes operational tanks.
    https://youtu.be/okXKlLF2lh0
    Awsome video

  • falseprophet123

    Bret Stephens has never been a conservative. The guy is a squishy RINO along with the other alleged conservative at the NYT, the effete David Brooks. I’m still in disbelief that the NYT went postal on Harvey Weinstein, that Cultural Marxist hypocrite.

    The NYT, the Washington Compost and the Boston Globe make up the Northeast Corridors Axis of Evil. Nothing can ever be believed that’s printed in those birdcage liners.

  • Guillotine_ready

    The 2nd amendment is our firewall to prevent even more gross tyranny and suffering by the average person. Imagine you are disarmed and only those loyal to the tyrant can have arms. Only the henchmen are armed hw do you protect yourself or you family? Beg them to protect you? Good luck with that. The 2nd amendment is the most important one do not let it go or we are done.

  • VaeVictus

    (((Bret Stephens))) is the same guy saying that white people who have been in the US for many generations are the real problem and the best solution is more third-worlders. Typical yid.

  • Alleged-Comment

    According to JM there is NO gun laws. So all GUN laws can be IGNORED. You should tell that to any Demoncraps that they are wasting ink.

    You should also tell that to anyone that will obey these phony gun laws. That means all fellow citizens.

    You do know we only have citizens under this Republic? Supreme titles are only to secure the Constitution and confer it to you..

  • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    There are two important things you must remember every time someone talks about gun control or repealing the Second Amendment.

    1. Anyone who wants you disarmed wants you dead.
    2. Anyone not willing to disarm you themselves is a coward.

    Self defense is a fundamental, Universal, human right. Nobody has the knowledge or authority to dictate to you what your self-defense needs are. Because they’re yours.

    • g.johnon

      i really do enjoy when you post a good one rev. kudos for that one 🙂

  • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    “Anarchy’s mayhem is wholly conjectural; the state’s mayhem is undeniably, factually horrendous.” ~ Robert Higgs

    • g.johnon

      mayhem is mayhem. anarchy is just no king.

  • Rayven Wrathchild

    Not one of these people gives a flying **** about people actually dying. If they did they’d look at the facts and direct their attention to where the most people die, statistically, via direct and intentional acts of others.

    When it comes to firearms we’d be honest. We’d point out that as gun ownership has gone up dramatically the rate of firearm deaths, for all reasons including suicide, has gone down dramatically. From 1970 to 2015 the rate fell by almost 25%. When it comes to black people the change is even more-dramatic; the rate of firearm deaths has fallen by almost 50%! This isn’t a “cherry pick” either; with the exception of a small increase from 1970-1980 and 2014-2015 the rate has declined on a general basis. You’d never know this reading the paper of course because the truth is never told in that regard. We would treat intentional falsehoods such as those run by politicians and the media as the public frauds that they are and indict the people who do so in an attempt to drive public policy — especially when they make money by raising funds for “charities” and “causes” through such lies. The raising of funds under false pretense is already a crime; we need no new laws, just enforcement of the ones we already have.

    Courtesy of the Market-ticker
    http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=232444

  • ConPatriot1234

    Bret who? lol, does anybody still read the enemedia anymore, much less believes it?

  • Laurence Almand

    The NY Times is a Socialist newspaper that has become anti-American and anti-democracy over the past 50 years. It constantly publishes anti-gun lies and nonsense, so it should not be taken seriously. Alas, many ignorant people do so.

  • Alleged-Comment

    WOULD the moron like it if we repeal free speech for newspapers? Ask the infantile moron.

  • isnogood

    “NYT Conservative Writer” is an oxymoron.

  • g.johnon

    seems odd that you left hitler out