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Ron Paul Files Request to Seize RonPaul.com Website

Frank Drover
The Daily Sheeple
February 10th, 2013
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ronpaulRetired Congressman Ron Paul is no longer a public figure and, now that he’s back in the free market, has filed a complaint with the World Intellectual Property Organization, an agency of the United Nations, against web sites using his name to promote goods, services and newsletters.

According to the complaint, the Libertarian minded former Congressman claims that certain websites named in the filing (RonPaul.com and RonPaul.org) are using his trademarks for the purpose of profit, and not for the dissemination of information deemed as “fair use”:

The words “Ron Paul” have become synonymous with Dr. Paul’s political writings and discourse.

Ron Paul is the owner of the RON PAUL U.S. trademark. Ron Paul has acquired rights in the mark by virtue of its use Within the United States, including a large volume of  sales of Dr. Pauls books. The RON PAUL mark has achieved a secondary meaning associated with Ron Paul sufficient to establish common law trademark rights. RON PAUL has long been associated with Dr. Pauls books, articles, public appearances, and political commentary.

Respondents clearly are using RonPaul.com and RonPaul.org commercially.

When a respondent profits from a domain name, it is not making legitimate noncommercial or fair use of the domain name.

The aforementioned web sites became ground zero for the Ron Paul Revolution campaign, as well as grassroots organizers for the Paul Presidential campaign, and were also responsible, according to the owners of RonPaul.com, for raising millions of dollars in campaign donations during the 2008 and 2012 Presidential elections.

In response to the claims filed by Paul, the defendants in the trademark case have posted the following synopsis of their version of events at the web site RonPaul.com:

Earlier today, Ron Paul filed an international UDRP complaint againstRonPaul.com and RonPaul.org with WIPO, a global governing body that is an agency of the United Nations. The complaint calls on the agency to expropriate the two domain names from his supporters without compensation and hand them over to Ron Paul.

On May 1st, 2008 we launched a grassroots website at RonPaul.com that became one of the most popular resources dedicated exclusively to Ron Paul and his ideas. Like thousands of fellow Ron Paul supporters, we put our lives on hold and invested 5 years of hard work into Ron Paul, RonPaul.com and Ron Paul 2012. Looking back, we are very happy with what we were able to achieve with unlimited enthusiasm and limited financial resources.

Last month, after Ron Paul expressed regret on the Alex Jones show over not owning RonPaul.com (in an interview titled “Ron Paul: The Internet Is Our Last Chance to Awaken America“), dozens of supporters urged us to contact Ron Paul to work out a deal.

We sent Ron Paul the following respectful offer [View/Download PDF File], explaining that we’d prefer to keep RonPaul.com due to reasons explained in our letter.

At the same time we offered him RonPaul.org as a free gift so we could keep usingRonPaul.com and he wouldn’t have to use something like RonPaulsHomePage.com.

Incredibly, Ron Paul’s lawyers are trying to use our FREE offer of RonPaul.org against us in an attempt to demonstrate “bad faith” on our part!

Our offer went on to explain that in case Ron Paul insisted on obtaining RonPaul.com, we would prepare a complete liberty package consisting of RonPaul.com and our 170k mailing list.

The value we put on the deal was $250k; we are getting our mailing list appraised right now but we are confident it is easily worth more than $250k all by itself. Claims that we tried to sell Ron Paul “his name” for $250k or even $800k are completely untrue, and there is little doubt that our mailing list would have enabled Ron Paul to raise several million dollars for the liberty movement this year. It would have been a win/win/win situation for everyone involved.

Instead of responding to our offer, making a counter offer, or even accepting our FREE gift of RonPaul.org, Ron Paul went to the United Nations and is trying to use its legal process related to domain name disputes to actively deport us from our domain names without compensation.

Below is a copy of Ron Paul’s complaint and our original offer to Ron Paul. We have 20 days to prepare a response and we are tentatively looking for a lawyer to represent us in this case.

Hopefully it won’t have to come to that!

What in the world is going on? Earlier this week we were hit in the face by Ron Paul’s entirely out-of-character anti-Chris Kyle tweet, and now Ron Paul, the Internet grassroots candidate, who was at the right place at the right time to lead the rEVOLution, attacks his own grassroots supporters through an agency of the United Nations to deport them from their own domain names after 5 years of nothing but unlimited, unconditional support on our part?

Back in 2007 we put our lives on hold for you, Ron, and we invested close to 10,000 hours of tears, sweat and hard work into this site at great personal sacrifice. We helped raise millions of dollars for you, we spread your message of liberty as far and wide as we possibly could, and we went out of our way to defend you against the unjustified attacks by your opponents.

Now that your campaigns are over and you no longer need us, you want to take it all away – and send us off to a UN tribunal?

The question now becomes whether the authors of the website RonPaul.com and its sister site RonPaul.org are its rightful owners after having spent four years developing its content, or, whether Ron Paul’s trademarks and name take precedence.

It’s an interesting case that focuses on property rights, a key element of Libertarianism.

Both parties believe they are in the right.

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  • B

    Will ANY of you people EVER get it through your heads that NOT EVERYONE can play videos!!! Where I live its a “dead” area – my computer is EXTREMELY slow (using all servers). Slow means no video download. For those that like videos, FINE! But for those like me, how about adding the printed version too!!!

    • http://www.TheDailySheeple.com Drover

      B, there’s no video posted on this article. It should only be showing text.

      • Wanderlust

        Daaamn that is a slow connection, lol.

  • Anonymous

    Heard the website owners were not from the United States, hence having to unfortunately route to a branch of the “UN” – if this is true.

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    “Also, we have many email addresses, social media accounts, t-shirt designs etc. linked to the domain (in particular the popular Facebook page “RonPaul.com”) that we would have to change or abandon. In short, such an abrupt change would lead to
    chaos on the Internet and – at least temporarily – disrupt the message of liberty.

    To avoid these complications we’d like to offer you an alternative domain name, RonPaul.org, for your new website at no cost whatsoever. Please don’t use a monstrosity such as “RonPaulsHomePage.com” as is being speculated on the forums. RonPaul.org is an attractive, high quality alternative, and it won’t cost you ything. (Other than the annual renewal fee; all domains have to be renewed each
    year and that costs about $10 per year.)

    If you do insist on obtaining RonPaul.com (it is the best Ron Paul related domain name), we could relocate our grassroots site elsewhere and sell you the domain name
    at its current market price of $250,000. That would include a copy of our 170,000 strong RonPaul.com email list; these supporters proactively signed up for our email updates, they expect and welcome frequent communications, and they are completely “untapped” in terms of donations. This means that you (and/or Campaign for Liberty) could easily make back the purchase price in a matter of days. Only you can put this list to its best possible use, which is why we’d include it as a free bonus
    with RonPaul.com. ”

    _____

    The change over to RonPaul.Org for them would be an inconvenience, create chaos on the Internet and disrupt cause of Liberty, but for the price of $250,000,
    that all disappears?

    What’s more important to them and this issue?

    If that were me, I would not be happy. Dr Paul has sacrificed most of his life
    for the greater good and obviously wants to continue to build and protect the current road for Freedom – which in this country appears to be in jeopardy, if people can’t get it together.

    He supposedly offered $50,000 or more, but $250,00 seems like
    unconscious Extortion.

    Ethical Libertarianism and Conscientious Capitalism seems like the better road.

  • Row Weil

    What? What the heck is going on?

    Did we seriously misinterpret RP’s character, or do you think he’s being manipulated into this?

    Somethin’ aint right here.

  • Lars Olfen

    Give Dr Paul the site, call it a day and go home. It served its purpose and you guys probably earned something in the process over the past 4 or 5 years.

  • Anonymous

    I think so. That’s his OWN birth name they’re “fighting” over! If this were Natural Law, it belongs to him.

    “Ron Paul did not “Call on the United Nations”, to “confiscate” RonPaul.com! Ron Paul has used the trademark “Ron Paul” for over 30 years to market his books and has taken the first step in correcting gross violations of trademark infringement according the to regulations that RonPaul.com agreed to when they registered their domain.”

  • dan

    GOING TO THE UN… REFUTE’S ANYTHING THAT THE GOOD DR. HAS TALKED ABOUT……DR PAUL YOU WERE MISSED ADVISED IN YOUR LAST RUN AT THE PRESIDENCY AND YOUR ARE ALSO MISSED ADVISED AS TO USE THE UN…I HAD VOTED FOR YOU IN 08 AND 12 AND ATTENDED LECTURES AND C FOR L FUNCTIONS WITH YOU…YOU GO AGAINST EVERYTHING THAT YOU HOLD DEAR…BY USING THE UN…I CAN NO LONGER LISTEN TO ANYTHING YOU SAY…I WILL ONLY READ FROM YOUR PAST BOOKS…BUT NEVER AGAIN CAN I TRUST YOUR JUDGEMENT GOING FORWARD

    • true

      He never ever went to the UN. People are trying to spread dis-info or unknowingly spreading unchecked ‘facts’ and rumours.

      ‘IP issues aside… Just the fact that they call themselves “Ron Paul supporters” and are trying to sell Ron Paul a domain name that cost them $10, for $250,000 – is pathetic.

      And they are pretending that Ron Paul is taking their website content away, he’s NOT. They will still have their website files and precious mailing list. Throwing up their website on a new domain name, like ronpaulmerchandise.com (example only), is as easy as clicking a button.’

      ‘sadly, the average American doesn’t understand intellectual property and will always side with the violator. My favorite basketball team, the Clippers, learned this the hard way when they asked one of their biggest fans (who they had given free tickets for life to) to stop selling bootleg merchandise that infringed on their IP and he literally went crying to the media.’

      The fact is, I’d say Ron Paul has a right to his own name and certainly doesn’t deserve to have bootleg merchandise with his name on it sold without his express permission. That’s the issue here if I’m reading this correctly: they didn’t get permission.

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    I tend not to create a leave a response, but I browsed a few
    responses here Ron Paul Takes Aim At Trademark, Moves to Seize RonPaul.
    com. I do have a couple of questions for you if it’s allright. Is it only me or do a few of the responses look as if they are written by brain dead people? :-P And, if you are writing on other online sites, I would like to keep up with you. Would you post a list of every one of your shared sites like your linkedin profile, Facebook page or twitter feed?

  • dan

    using the UN for anything but a bonfire…is UNacceptable

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