Racism? Internet Fury As White Sorority Sisters Are Seen Singing Controversial “N-Word” Lyric From Kanye West Song

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A University of New Hampshire sorority is facing widespread backlash from groups and individuals claiming that their singing along to Kanye West’s song “Gold Digger” is racist.

The song, which includes the lyrics “I ain’t sayin’ she’s a gold digger… but she ain’t messin’ with no broke n***r,” has hundreds of millions of views and listens across the internet.

The backlash started following the emergence of a video published to social media where the sorority sisters can be seen dancing to and reciting the controversial “she ain’t messin with no broke n***r” chorus of the song.

The video was “exposed” on Facebook by All Eyes on UNH, a local university group that purports to show injustices on campus.

Is it racism?

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  • F**K racists of all colors.

    Boo friggin hoo….what a bunch of BS.

    • NonYo Business

      and yet, the daily crapple feels its important enough to “re-post” bleh.

      • One has to wonder what Alexa and Google Home do when they hear such language, call the SPLC?

      • Mike

        yes, it is important, it is just more proof of the double standard.

        • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

          … and the success of the dumbing-down of America

        • NonYo Business

          Really? Because drunk chicks are partying and having fun? When I see this crap, I only scroll to the bottom to bitch about it. lol, but Im glad at least someone finds this newsworthy.

  • Tom Buyea — Fla.News service

    What do you have to say about the last “52 YEARS !!” Of Affirmative Action that has turned away all White Americans and in particular White American Males from any type of employment no matter how well educated, Licensed, Experienced and after making a 97% on a Pre-Employment test for the Miami Florida Fire Department that put me # 3 out of 1,713 applicants who made a 70% or more on the tests and when I call up and ask why I was never interviewed ? And they tell me on tape ! Oh We didn’t need any White American Males, So we had to go to lower scores and hire people in Minority categories !! So those of you who believe in Affirmative Action ! I hope the applicant who made a 50% on the pre-Employment test and was still hired because of his race, I hope he is the Emergency Paramedic sent to save your life after your heart attack or roll over traffic accident ! After all, All that is important is that he is the right color ? Correct ? If you survive or not does not and if you were White, You probably were Considering suicide anyways so no great loss !! ??

    • Razedbywolvs

      Have you seen the white people coming out of collage? Or what happens to places that adopts those policies?
      I say good riddance. We don’t need them, they need us.

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  • Razedbywolvs

    It’s not racist, but pretty much every race on the planet should try not to adopt black culture. Except fried chicken, thats good.

    • Do you believe that “not adopt(ing) black culture” is difficult for anyone who isn’t either black and/or a consumer of contemporary culture?

    • NonYo Business

      Its not Black culture, its ghetto culture, and you see it no matter what skin color a person has.

      • Razedbywolvs

        NAWALT argument. Were is the Jew ghetto culture?

        • NonYo Business

          No idea what nawalt is, but who gives a fuck about the culture of a religious group?

          • Razedbywolvs

            Pretty much everyone who doesn’t want to convert to Islam. But 50% of Jews are atheist, It’s not a religion.

          • NonYo Business

            To be Jewish, indicates you are a part of a belief system. Otherwise they are Atheist and not Jewish. Is that not correct?

          • Razedbywolvs

            No it is absolute does not/is not correct. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews

  • Bruce Regael

    I never understood this bleeping out words. It’s from a song lyric. Just say the damn word if you’re going to quote it. This level of retardation is exactly what confirms and pushes political correctness in the first place. If people are too retarded to take offense to repeating something in verbatim unable to tell the difference that’s on them and their lack of intelligence and no one else. Catering to the lower IQ idiots in society just exacerbates the problem.

    • If it weren’t for catering to those with lower IQs, would there be anything to watch on television?

      • Ribert Koonce

        Lol, true, but there are a few programs that are catering to the mind, and not just the mindless. Nova is just one example. But I have to agree, most of what’s on TV these days is garbage.

        • I haven’t seen a Nova since the mid 70’s. I actually contributed voicers to All Things Considered a couple of times, that I was never paid for. NPR is the least likely paymaster I had in radio.

          • Ribert Koonce

            It still plays on PBS around here , which actually surprises me with as far to the left as PBS has been going lately. Their “Secrets of the Dead ” serues has some interesting thoughts on events from the past. The closest I ever got to public communications, was setting up PSA’s when I was doing sound engineering at one of the station’s I worked for in Dallas. To be honest, have no desire to go back to that county again. Even a pass through, just as soon drive around it so I don’t soul my car.

          • My broadcast engineering career ended in Brownwood at KXYL AM&FM after the owners decided she didn’t want to spend 6 figures to add am LPTV to the mix, after I’d put out all of their fires and made them sound better than anyone there could remember it ever sounding. I ended my electronics career as a sound engineer at Modern Sales and Service at 2200 Young in Dallas, which I’m sure is gone now. Which station did you set up the PSAs at? Texas was my second choice for where to retire, Wyoming won, but this isn’t the Wyoming I remember from 27 years ago.

          • Ribert Koonce

            I worked for the Susquhanna Radio group in Dallas, we had 4 ststions in The group, 93.3 The Bone, 99.5 The Wolf, The Ticket, and KLIF am . Fun days, whilst it lasted , they all went crazy far left when Clear Channel bought them out, and that was the end of my sound engineering career. By then, most of them has gone that direction and there just wasn’t any room for a conservative biker type anymore. Lol I do understand things not being what they used to be. There isn’t enough money in the world to get me back into Dallas. It’s getting embarrassing .

          • Where do conservative biker types hang out these days?
            My last motorcycle was sold to a friend in Dallas, who never paid me. I suspect that it ate his economic lunch, so we broke even. It was in Dallas that I got the first of the three vans I have lived in since. What is happening to Clear Channel cum iHeart radio must be doing yours good. It couldn’t happen to a better monolith of evil. There is a parade of bikers through Wyoming every year before Sturgis, with a usually smaller one after, as they disperse in every direction after. Based on my personal experience, a van is a better freedom vehicle than a motorcycle.

          • Ribert Koonce

            You know, that’s a pretty.food question. While I still have my last mitorcucle, the diagnosis of Parkinson’s disease and Multiple Sclerosis 9 years ago put a damper on my riding days. It for to the point of not knowing if I was going to be able to get my feet down at a red light that really ended it though. I also have a couple of vans. Nothing special, just an old work van and one I scavenge for parts. As for Clear Channel? That’s one I could explain if I tried. They’ve managed to ruin just about everything they’ve touched. Well as least as far as I’m concerned. I’ve just never been a big supporter of socialist ideals. I did make the trip to Sturgis a few times back in 80’s and 90’s , but as with anything that is enjoyable, commercialization ruined that too. It’s funny, none of the trips I made to Sturgis cost me more than a couple hundred dollars for the two weeks I was there. Now a decent room and a dinner will run that much. One of my friends went up 2 years ago, and said a beer was almost 10 bucks. Kinda hard to swallow when you can remember when a case was that same price. Lol yes it’s been a while since I bought any alcohol too. While I did a littlentraveling in the van, it was always a back to nature thing on a bike. Sttap the tent and sleeping bag to the front end and take off. These days, I’m not sure I would want to try sleeping in the van. Hurts too much.

          • Are you familiar with the protocol that Dr. Terry Wahls developed to treat her MS, that drove it into full remission, where she maintains it today? She came down with it after graduating medical school and none of her contemporaries had anything to offer her. The same protocol has been used to treat Parkinson’s, as well. http://terrywahls.com/

  • Mike

    You know what, I am gonna say it like it is. You have a ni&&er saying ni&&er in a song and some white ni&&er wanna bees are singing the song and saying ni&&er and they get jumped on for it. Get over ni&&er, you want to say ni&&er this, ni&&er that then don’t get upset when some non black says ni&&er.

    • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

      Is a ni&&er anything like a nigger?
      If so, just come right out and say it. You aren’t normally afraid to say what you mean.

      • Mike

        lol. last time i put nigger in my post it got deleted by admin. I wanted it to stay so the point got across. But thanks for noticing.

        • The admin of that site must have been a lot farther to the left than this one appears to be. I’d go back and edit the &&s out.

        • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

          Better to die on your feet with a clear conscience, than to submit to the weak of mind and will.

  • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    It isn’t racism – it’s stupidity.

    Someone needs to give these white girls pat. . . on the head. . . with a hammer, for buying into illiterate ghetto trash culture in the first freaking place.

    I hope that Aerosmith is happy with what they started on July 4th, 1986. Behold the Celebration of Mediocrity in its full Glory.

    • That would be a terrible waste of a perfectly good hammer when a baseball bat would work so much better, with less mess to clean off of it.

      • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

        Hammers are easier to hide until it’s too late.

        • Baseball bats are more ubiquitous as sporting goods, and less likely to retain evidence of application.

  • Ribert Koonce

    It’s actually funny, after all these decades of demanding inclusion, and equality, I actually jeard a black man on TV claim that that word is now a word that owned by blacjs and whute folks shouldn’t be included in their language ir culture??Not that I particularly would want to, but isn’t about par for the course? Spent better than 50 years for something they didn’t want anyway. Now that’s affirmative action. Let that be a lesson to all the social justice warriors out there, Be damn careful of what you wish and fight for. And don’t go crying when what you fought for bites you in the ass. As fornthise who think they can place a claim on a word because of skin color, that’s true racism.

    • Its ownership isn’t well titled.

      nigger (n.) Look up nigger at Dictionary.com
      1786, earlier neger (1568, Scottish and northern England dialect), from French nègre, from Spanish negro (see Negro). From the earliest usage it was “the term that carries with it all the obloquy and contempt and rejection which whites have inflicted on blacks” [cited in Gowers, 1965, probably Harold R. Isaacs]. But as black inferiority was at one time a near universal assumption in English-speaking lands, the word in some cases could be used without deliberate insult. More sympathetic writers late 18c. and early 19c. seem to have used black (n.) and, after the American Civil War, colored person.
      “You’re a fool nigger, and the worst day’s work Pa ever did was to buy you,” said Scarlett slowly. … There, she thought, I’ve said “nigger” and Mother wouldn’t like that at all. [Margaret Mitchell, “Gone With the Wind,” 1936]
      Also applied by English settlers to dark-skinned native peoples in India, Australia, Polynesia. The reclamation of the word as a neutral or positive term in black culture (not universally regarded as a worthwhile enterprise), often with a suggestion of “soul” or “style,” is attested first in the U.S. South, later (1968) in the Northern, urban-based Black Power movement.

      Used in combinations (such as nigger-brown) since 1840s for various dark brown or black hues or objects; euphemistic substitutions (such as Zulu) began to appear in these senses c. 1917. Brazil nuts were called nigger toes by 1896. Variant niggah, attested from 1925 (without the -h, from 1969), is found usually in situations where blacks use the word. Nigra (1944), on the other hand, in certain uses reflects a pronunciation of negro meant to suggest nigger, and is thus deemed (according to a 1960 slang dictionary) “even more derog[atory] than ‘nigger.’ ” Slang phrase nigger in the woodpile attested by 1800; “A mode of accounting for the disappearance of fuel; an unsolved mystery” [R.H. Thornton, “American Glossary,” 1912]. Nigger heaven “the top gallery in a (segregated) theater” first attested 1878 in reference to Troy, N.Y.

      from http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=nigger

      • Phil_Ossifer

        In the James Bond novel “Live And Let Die” there is a chapter titled, “Nigger heaven,” a reference to Harlem. I wonder how long it will take the publishers to retitle that before they print the next editions. This bullshit would be entertaining if it wasn’t part of the accelerated downfall of Western civilization.

        • Installed ignorance will preclude the need. Most Bond fans are watchers instead of readers.

      • Ribert Koonce

        Couldn’t agree more, thanks for the history update, there’s a few I hadn’t found before.

  • John

    If black people use the term with impunity among themselves, on what reasonable basis can anyone decry or block its use by anyone else? Or is racism not racism unless it’s said to be (stb) racism by one or more people? Or is the use of words personal rather than general, such as one of the characters in “Through the Looking Glass” who says that when he uses a word, it means what he chooses it to mean, neither more nor less.

    • Because they use it as a term of endearment instead of insult?

      • Ribert Koonce

        Semantics. Lol it’s been around for over 400 years and now they want to claim sole usage of the word. Like that’s going to stop it’s use by anybody else.

        • Human beings would get along better if they’d start keying on what they have in common instead of what they don’t. They can have all of my equity in the word. I have enough problems with people who don’t know the differences between a libertarian and a liberal calling me the latter on a sparsity of information. http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz/quiz.php

          • Ribert Koonce

            I’m not arguing your point at all, just laughing at the whole situation. To actually claim a word that they didn’t invent, and stating it’s ok for them to use but racist for someone else to, is the epitome of the racist. Or am I not understanding the point they’re trying to make?

          • I don’t think it is a matter of racism. All of our governments do all kinds of nasty things that they won’t let us do, but that isn’t racist, but classist.

  • Joel W

    I have to say, I need to meet one of these professional victim mentality blacks. They seem entertaining as hell. Got many black friends, and while I generally don’t use the word much, I say nigga in front of them enough and nobody bats an eye.

    • Elaine.Benes, II

      In my vast experience of life for over half a century now, I have found it is mostly the white, leftist, Libtard, PC as Fukk, NWO Tool Useful Idiots who are “offended” by this word and many others, much more so than any black person I have known, and there have been many. I would say the word becomes offensive to them when the person saying it is offensive and using it to offend. Of course, if not for the Racial Tension/Division/Black v. White/White v. Black Psy-Op on The Sheeple being carried out by the Entertainment Industry and The Mainstream Media Cabal and its Idiot Reporters/Journalists this, like so many other things stirring up hatred and vitriol currently and for decades now amongst the Masses, would be a non-issue.

      • Joel W

        Well off to re-education camp for you. Waaayyyyy too much truth in that statement. Seriously though, you could not be more correct. Me and the people I associate with, white, black, Martian, or otherwise, have bigger issues in our lives than worrying about a stupid words. IMO, and I’m sure anybody who isn’t a Mind Kontrolled ‘victim’ of imaginary wrongs, would agree, when it comes to this term there is a big difference between ‘nigga’ & ‘nigger.’ One is endearment, the other truly is offensive.

        Ironically, the twit who used to play your namesake on Seinfeld would most certainly NOT agree with us here.

        • Elaine.Benes, II

          Yes, you are correct on all points, Friend. LOL including the “Twit” LOL.
          The Avatar I chose is a testament to my “awakening”. When I was buying into the Psy-Ops, being a Libtard, and walking around in a haze of sheer blissful Pharmaceutical/Old Charter induced denial, not only was the Elaine character my hero but so was the “real” JLD.
          Looking back, it seems like life was easier then, before I took a trip down the Ol Rabbit Hole and quit taking their poisons. But you can never go back once you’ve gone down there…and lucky for me, back in the day they still taught us “positive” affirmations like “nothing worth having comes easy” and “the truth will set you free”. LOL

          • Joel W

            Yea, the old saying ‘ignorance is bliss’ is very true. But fuck that shit. I’ll take being awake & annoyed any day.

    • None of the black friends I have had have ever called me a derogatory term except kiddingly. My two best friends in high school called themselves a spicican and a wop. I went to a high school, by choice, that was almost equally black and white with a few hispanics and asians thrown in. It was a vast improvement over being one of the minority of goy in junior high.

      • Joel W

        Spicican? I like that, never heard it before. But I hear what you are saying. I’m long out of school, but we had a good share of everything. And I believe it made me a better person. I’ve had more problem through my entire life from whites than anyone else. But that was mainly in high school. I was in the Gifted/AP program, so I had the delight of being in class with all the rich folk. The girls were never a problem. Some of the guys, though,that’s another story. Probably because they were jealous of the attention I got from the ‘rich’ girls and just elitism in general. I mean, how dare their little West End princesses give so much attention to the hood trash interloper.

        • I spelled spicican the way he said it, it was his own word for his South Central LA upbringing as a hispanic with an italian step-father.
          I was offered the gifted program and turned it down because it would have required being in the minority goy again. Instead, I replaced the study halls (who can study in one?) with electives, which found me leaving after the first semester in my senior year, which was only one, two period a day, two semester class. This let me continue to work full-time, as I’d started during the summer break. When my counselor called me in a couple of weeks after the second semester started and told me I had enough credit to graduate, I checked out, and started a better job a week later, making $800/month, in 1972.

          • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

            I’d have given just about anything to go to a school with a gifted program.
            It would have saved me the drudgery of having to “go at the same speed as everyone else,” when I was four to six years ahead of everyone else.
            It would have also saved me from the regularly-scheduled fights with the people who kept fucking with me over being the guy that reads books.

            When did it become cool to be illiterate?

          • When it meant you were part of the majority.

          • The Tuna Fairy

            Horrifying thought.

          • Reality is frequently horrifying, especially when many involved don’t see that they are.

          • The Tuna Fairy

            Oh god, me too. I HATED school. I LOVE to learn. I hate sitting places all day and learning nothing and dealing with the social crap.

            I have NO idea when it became cool to be illiterate, wouldn’t it be AWESOME if being high IQ became cool? If people put work into learning to be smart so they were acceptable, instead of people like me having to learn to dumb down their conversation to a speed that the people I am talking to can possibly have a chance of understanding? Ahhhh… I’m such a dreamer 😛

            I hate the world catering to the ignorant at the expense of the smart. All of the good things humans have done to advance the culture have been dreamed up by smart people, punishing the smart is just bad evolutionary tactics. It’s up there with sending the only healthiest and strongest guys to war, it results in breeding ourselves into extinction.

          • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

            Mrs. Rev regularly gives me the what for because of my language – she knows I’m smarter than that.

            I’ve worked around so many people who can’t keep up, for so long, that I’ve had to dumb-down my speech in order to be understood.
            It’s a constant battle. I do keep a bag of 3 dollar words on me at all times, though – just in case.

            The reason the world caters to the stupid is. . . there are more of them with money to spend, and it’s easier to sucker an idiot into buying anything.
            I present hiphop/rap as Exhibit A.

          • The Tuna Fairy

            My brother once got annoyed at my casual obscenity use, instead of more appropriate language, he said “I don’t need to use those words, I have a vocabulary.” I told him “I have an extensive vocabulary. It takes two to communicate. You work with people who understand your vocabulary, I work with people who only understand an emphatic term if it’s obscene.”

            I’m currently having issues with some things that I am doing, complex things, that I have been studying for a few years, and when I have to communicate about them to normal people, I’m at a loss for how to even dumb it down enough to try to talk. I spent most of today on the phone, arguing with phone answering weasels, who wouldn’t escalate me to someone with a clue, and who didn’t understand the concept in the least. One girl kept putting me on hold, asking someone else things, coming back all happy with lovely answers to questions that don’t relate to me at all, because she didn’t understand what I was asking. So I’d start over, she’d ask again, get more irrelevant answers. I gave up. I hope her company isn’t who I really needed, I couldn’t get past the phone answering girl. 54 minutes on the phone for zero communication. But, you know, she’s “normal” and I’m not…

          • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

            It’s not so much the obscenities. . . as we all know, proper use of obscenities is a sign of higher intelligence.

            It’s the casual use of “dumbed-down” terminology. “Foot,” instead of “feet,” as a unit of measurement – for example.

            Long before 54 minutes had elapsed, I’d have given that person a lesson in creative cursing.

          • Joel W

            Well I get what you are s what you are saying, but at 11 years old I had no concept of goy or anything along those lines. I just wanted a good education. And I got it. I cared not one bit about being looked down upon or anything of the sort. That type of stuff does not bother me.

          • You are either lucky to have never been bullied or you were a real suck-up.

          • Joel W

            Maybe those were the only two options for you, since you already said you wouldn’t go into the Gifted program because you were scared to be the goy. But its called standing up for oneself. I was never bullied, and I most certainly never sucked up to anybody.

          • Where did the word “scared” appear in anything I wrote?

          • Joel W

            Never said it did. But that’s the way what you said came across. You chose to skip something due to not wanting to be the only goy. That comes across as being a bit scared to me.

          • I chose to skip something that wasn’t worth changing my life for, especially since the education I was getting wouldn’t have been improved, and I’d be giving up a group of good friends for an arrogant batch of spoiled brats. You must be a lot more cowardly than I am to read that into what I wrote.

          • Joel W

            That’s fine. Your choice, and my apologies for misinterpreting what you said. That’s just how it sounded to me. And I can only speak for the school I went to, but I learned a lot more be in the Gifted/AP program than I would have been in regular tracking, and I still use a lot of it to this day in my career, 23 years later. I can concur with the arrogant, spoiled brat part though, but I like I mentioned already, I was 11 when I first entered the program, and did not know that would be the case. And also, not everyone was like that. There were plenty of other students from my part of town, and those were the ones I chose to associate with, spare of few of the West Enders that did not have said spoiled attitude. And frankly, would not have been an issue anyway. I did not then, nor do I now, let that affect me.

    • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

      I never made friends with the kind of ghetto trash that uses the term.

      • Joel W

        Well I don’t know what to say to that elitism. I live in the exact same area as this so-called ghetto trash, so by default you are calling me, and every other white person, what just happen to live in the so-called ‘ghetto.’ Sorry, Mr High & Mighty, we can’t all live in gated communities in the suburbs. And personally, I would not want to, because of attitudes like you have just displayed.

        • You were proud to call yourself ghetto trash?

          • Joel W

            Um, What? I never called myself anything. And who or what did I promote to anything? If you are referring to politicians, I do not vote because I refuse to legitimize their so-called authority by doing so.

        • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

          I live in the country, in a house on the corner of a 20 acre cornfield.

          Adopt ghetto trash culture, become ghetto trash.

          • That is probably less perilous than living on a cornfield in the ocean, although in California, that is always a future possibility:-)

          • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

            LOL

            Fill a glass with ice cubes, then top it off with water.

            Set the glass on a table and let the ice melt.

          • Then you’ll have to top up the water?

          • Joel W

            Well, la-di-da, Mr High & Mighty. You know nothing about me. However, we all now know you are no more than an elitist douche bag. Now why are you wasting your time on my worthless, ghetto-trash self?

          • He knows nothing about you but you know everything about him? He isn’t a elitist because he doesn’t associate with ghetto trash, he isn’t ghetto trash. Elitists don’t associate with anyone on this group. If you want to be self-deprecating, there are many who will play along with you. If you don’t want to be insulted, don’t insult others from your ignorant point of view.

          • Joel W

            Never said I know everything about him. But I do know, by his own words, that he thinks he is better than certain people. That said, I think the good ol Reverend can stick up for himself. He does not need you chiming in for him.

          • You apparently forgot posting:
            “Well, la-di-da, Mr High & Mighty. You know nothing about me. However, we all now know you are no more than an elitist douche bag. Now why are you wasting your time on my worthless, ghetto-trash self?” in which you claimed to know enough about him to access that he is an elitist. He is a lot better than people like you if your memory is that weak.

          • Joel W

            Apparently I did not forget that post since I reiterated exactly what I said in this one. His own words indicate he thinks he is better than us so-called ghetto trash. Said it in that post. Said the same thing in the last post. And I said it again here.

          • I have never been any kind of trash, nor have I ever been considerable as part of any economic elite. I have encountered a lot people who want to treat me as one or the other because of their needs and/or wants to wallow in their own misconceptions. Since the good reverend and I are both ordained by the same church and work as truck drivers, we have had a lot of the same experiences with the arrogant and ignorant class of people that you appear to be a part of in every way, and barring a successful visit to a proctologist, will never stop being a part of. I won’t speak for him, but you don’t know nor can understand either of us.

          • Joel W

            Never said you were either. All I was doing here was sticking up for myself and my friends, who the Rev claims are ghetto trash, due solely to the occasional use of one word. I don’t consider myself ghetto trash, nor do I consider my friends that. But apparently, according to the uber judgmental reverend, we are due to language, knowing exactly nothing else about any of us. That all said, for a couple of alleged reverends, their is an awful lot of judgement going on here of strangers. Judge not, lest thee be judged. You say arrogant & ignorant. I say I am defending myself from two irritatingly self-righteous people.

          • Who you know as poorly as we know you, due solely to a few posts.

          • Joel W

            When I am getting talked down upon and judged the way you two are doing, that’s all I need to know. I attacked nobody. You and he came in with your self-righteousness and judgmental attitude. I never called anybody any names. He referred to the people choose to associate with as ghetto-trash, and by default, implied I am as well. And you chose to come race to his side.

          • Studentenviro

            If you are both ordained in the same church then it cannot be a Christian church for your attitude towards other people is anything but Christian.
            I feel very sorry for the members of your congregation.

          • You are making an invalid assumption that either of us has a congregation or anything resembling a church. The head of our church has many decades of Christian pastorship under his wing. All of your arguments fall apart when you apply ad hominem. Joel admonished me for speaking in defense of Draco. I doubt that he will do likewise for you defending him.

          • Studentenviro

            Actually I am making a very valid assumption. Assumptions are based on two things, information and norms.
            The information was you were both ordained in the same charge. The norm is ordained ministers have a congregation.
            Therefore although the assumption may be incorrect it is not invalid.
            What Joel does I have no control of so you are talking to the wrong person about what he will do.
            Now the head of your church may have many decades of Christian pastorship under his wing but that does not make you a Christian. Christian doctrine does not teach or condone the ideas that were prevalent in the posts.

          • Your norms are as assumed as your other assumptions.

          • Studentenviro

            No, my norms are not assumed. You are rationalizing because you want to find some way out of the hole you have dug for yourself.

          • Where did I claim to be a Christian?

          • Studentenviro

            You said ” The head of our church has many decades of Christian pastorship under his wing.”
            Therefore by default you claim to be a Christian especially as you claim to be an ordained minister.

          • You apparently know as little about ordination as you do about almost everything else you are too ignorant to defend your specious premises about.

          • Studentenviro

            I know about logic and you just lost a logical argument.

          • Studentenviro

            No he is not a lot better than people like Joel. He just thinks he is.

          • If he believes he is, it is because of the ignorance that Joel displays in every post.

          • Studentenviro

            Joel does not display ignorance in his posts. In fact he appears honest and inciteful. It appears Joel is closer to the situation than you are therefore he probably has more direct knowledge of the area than you do. You get your information from secondary sources not directly. Logic dictates Joel is more knowledgeable about the situation than you are based on his direct experience.

          • Studentenviro

            He knows about him not because he does not associate with so called “Ghetto Trash” which is a complete misnomer, but because of what he rights in his post. If you read you will see he praises himself for his own achievements while decrying everyone who he considers ” Ghetto Trash” i.e., people who live in a certain area even though by his own admission he has never been there or met anyone from that area. That is the quintessential definition of elitism.

          • This wisdom comes from someone who doesn’t know the difference between rights and writes?

          • Studentenviro

            Don’t judge intelligence by a typo. You would be very wrong.

          • Intelligence can’t be judged by typography, but ignorance and sloth certainly can.

          • Studentenviro

            And that means what exactly?

          • That means exactly what it says.

          • Studentenviro

            It doesn’t say anything.

          • Which is nothing but a confession that you are too ignorant to argue your specious claims successfully.

          • Studentenviro

            Not a confession at all. You appear to have a habit of creating false dialogue through gross rationalization.

            You said “Intelligence can’t be judged by typography, but ignorance and sloth certainly can”
            That is a totally illogical statement and one you cannot back up with evidence. Therefore what is it supposed to mean?

          • It means that you don’t give a rats ass what something means if you can redefine it to your own misunderstanding.

          • Studentenviro

            Give me evidence that I misunderstand something. Having a different point of view does not mean you misunderstand something. It usually means you look at it from a different perspective.
            A person who believes their understanding of something is the only way to understand it will be wrong 99% of the time.

          • Joel W

            And for the record, people like you are the exact reason that other races hate whites.

          • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

            It’s projected self-loathing that causes other races to hate whites.

            They know they’re idiots, and that it’s their own stupid fault. . . rather than admit it and do something to remedy the problem, it’s easier to blame whites – victimhood uber alles. . .

          • Joel W

            And right there is that elitist attitude IO am talking about. You admit you won’t associate with us ghetto-trash, yet you presume to know their state of mind? I know nobody who blames anybody for anything. They just can’t stand holier-than-thou attitudes such as yours. Its not blame. Its disgust at your self-inflated ego, and those like you.

          • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

            I presume based on decades of having to deal with fucking hoodrats. They accept little-to-no responsibility for the shitshow they’ve made of their lives, because it’s easier to blame someone else – almost exclusively “whitey.”
            Can’t read? Whitey did it!
            Can’t spell? WITY!!!
            No respect for other people and their property? OMG ITZ WHYTEEZ FALT!
            Rather be on the dole than be productive? WYTEEEEEEEE!!!!
            Assault and rob people and end up in prison? DA EVUL WHITY!

            Fuck those ghetto trash polesmokers.

            Why should I be ashamed of what I’ve accomplished? I worked my ass off to get an education, in spite of the best sabotage the public school system could muster. After a CABGx5 and a Pericardial Effusion that almost ended me, I talked my doctor into releasing me for work a month earlier than he was going to – 3 months after CABG and 2 months after nearly dying – because I’d rather be productive than indolent.

            My conscience is clear.

          • Joel W

            Oh I have no disagreement that they do exist. I live there. I see it. But to just make a broad generalization like that about everybody who lives in the ‘hood’ is just ignorant. Some of us choose to stay there. I love city life. I could move to the burbs or the country, but I would be bored. And I love my friends. But neither makes us ghetto trash. As I mentioned in my original post, I want to meet some of these professional victim, which by default means, my friends do not behave like that since I made it clear I do not know people like that. That said, most certainly be proud of what you have achieved. I am as well.

          • What other race are you to know that? You are hurting your non-ghetto trash claims.

          • Joel W

            Because I have conversations with my friends of other races and they tell me these things.

          • And they trust you enough to confide in you? Are you sure?

          • Joel W

            Um, I’m going to assume friends I have had for years and years (some close to 2 decades) are going to confide in me. Its called friendship, something you are seemingly unaware of how it works. I don’t know what kind of closed off from reality world you live in, but where I am from, we have more important things to worry about than skin color. People get along with people of other races all over. Is that that tough for you to wrap your mind around? And never once has any one of them blamed ‘whitey’ for their current state of affairs. They just don’t like this self-righteous attitude that you are displaying, and I wholly agree. I have more in common with my brothers from the hood, the so-called ‘ghetto-trash,’ than I do with self-righteous, holier-than-thou whites. We work. We take care of our families (for those who have them). We get together for a few drinks occasionally. Wash rinse repeat. Race NEVER comes in to play. We all h ave more important things to worry about. Friendship sees no color, no gender, no anything but camaraderie.

          • If your oldest friendship is two decades, I have friendships that are older than you are. The problem is that I am outliving most of my friends and few of the younger ones are any more enlightened than you.

          • Joel W

            Do you want a prize for that? Is this a contest? And again with that self-righteous judgment you keep showing. Sorry I’m not ‘enlightened’ enough for you.

  • Ernie Engle

    Nothing to see here, move along,,,,

  • The Tuna Fairy

    Ya know, I have heard no outcry against Kayne West for using the word.
    Either it’s an appropriate word, or it’s not, defining appropriate words
    by skin color of the speaker is racism at it’s finest.

  • darkhorse

    what word..nigger??

  • Roy Hobs

    “Racism” is reserved only for the white race. Only the white race can be “racist”. Only Countries built by Caucasians have ever endured the label “racist”. Why is that???!!!

    • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

      If you have to ask, you’re racist.