It absolutely is not promoting Christianity OR the bible… geez. You can fly around as many times as you want to and you will end up in the same place… because you are going around in circles! You can’t fall off the edge because there is a gigantic ice wall holding in the oceans… they call this icewall Antarctica and also call it a continent BUT do the math, well, somebody else did the math already + they also sailed around the “coastline” of “Antarctica” AND recorded the distance sailed which does not even remotely add up to the supposed coastline of “Antarctica”… what they sailed was MUCH larger because they sailed the circumference of the plane. Check out pics of the ice wall, this isn’t made up, you will run into an icewall if you keep sailing south. It is funny that you mention satellite photos… EVERY single “official” photo from NASA includes a cruved horizon never actually seen by a human before yet all amateur photos clearly show a flat horizon line, see for yourself: whale.to/c/flat-earth-horizon-flat.jpg. It would be to your benefit to look into this further but that is your choice, here is a documentary with some irrefutable facts: youtube.com/watch?v=kFjG4jpUhQI – the holographic reality has been proven also. This is about the truth, not religion.

I do believe Admiral Byrd’s FIRST account but I think his second story was BS propaganda to help obfuscate the message of the first story that was banned and all copies of national geographic repossessed and destroyed. NASA is going to great lengths to cover this up, the Flat Earth Society is controlled opposition put there just to confuse/obfuscate. Here are the folks that know what they are talking about: http://ifers.boards.net/ – also, this site here has some great info IMO: http://aplanetruth.info/ – I agree with the digital simulation also though which does not conflict with these theories. I believe in consciousness BEFORE matter and our brains are like antennae capable of picking up length, width, height and time making everything appear to be reality.

DMT helps to shatter this thing we call reality, ever see the spirit molecule on youtube? youtube.com/watch?v=LtT6Xkk-kzk – that speaks to a digital simulation universe… one guy in there was talking to one of the beings controlling “something.” This molecule connects this world to another one, all mammals, birds, fish, and reptiles have it and I think all plants do also but I am not positive on that. I think it is advanced tech far beyond our understanding but I never read that from anywhere that is just my own thoughts on the topic.

The land mass in the lower hemisphere is measurably larger than the land mass in the upper hemisphere so this means that we are not round no matter what you believe so how did NASA/Freemasonry explain this one? youtube.com/watch?v=4E9G8fbnZ24 – they now say we live on a pear! They are running out of excuses and explanations, the veil is being lifted and they are being outed for the lying deceivers they are. So we are on a rotating pear with people, water, and animals walking around upside down in the far lower hemisphere… ya gotta love $cience.

The shape you are describing sounds like a torus. If you watch the spirit molecule it will show you a little more about what it is like on the other side(outside of this matrix). DMT is how you exit the matrix and the place you go to I am told that you recognize right away so it is familiar to you. My cousin said it was the place he was before he was born and he somehow automatically knew that. DMT breaks down immediately as soon as it enters the body so you only have about 2-3 minutes which can be plenty because time does not exist there. There are no side effects and it is non-toxic, the only reason I can find for it being illegal is they do not want you to know about it and experience it, they need to lock your mind in a materialistic, mental cage and using entheogens is a way about thus all entheogens are banned. Graham Hancock speaks to this in his banned TEdx talk: youtube.com/watch?v=Y0c5nIvJH7w – in this he talks about ayahuasca which contains DMT.

I was saying what if those being are the creators of this matrix but if they are part of it also then that couldn’t be true. I have it but haven’t done it, only a small amount so far, not enough to break through yet.

That depends if the matrix is all encompassing or not, I surely do not know.

I don’t know for sure but yes people do report the existence of beings when they are on the other side after inhaling DMT vapor. They are called “machine elves” non-aliencreatures.wikia.com/wiki/Machine_Elf – another interesting thing to note is that some people report being on an alien spacecraft of some sort with tech far above ours. This stuff has no side effects but does intimidate me so I’ve had it for years now and still have never done enough to break through and experience any of that. DMT may be a chemical to us but advanced tech for them, I just don’t know.

Well then I don’t know how you are going to handle this one… you do DMT every night when you sleep.

You can do whatever you wish, you still trip on DMT every night even if you pretend not to. Good bye!

Do you think I am trying to deceive you? I assure you I am not, what i say is true. It is in your brain man, look it up. You are in possession of a schedule I substance according to the DEA, your pineal gland secretes this illegal substance, it is the very substance that causes dreams… something I am not able to do anymore hence my interest in decalcifying my pineal…. among a myriad of other reasons but clarity is one of them, a big one to me at least. DMT is the most potent decalcifier and boron is also up there so I have that also, Mule Team Borax(illegal in europe – sold in the laundry aisle here, also the cure for arthritis by the way), it does not have a psycho-active effect. I use what my body needs, not what the DEA dictates. I use 5htp,a serotonin precursor, melatonin – one of the most potent antioxidants you can take, it is released by the pineal gland when it detects no light. The Pineal is your third eye, it even has a lens in reptiles, it is referred to as “the seat of the soul”, as soon as the pineal detects the absence of light it releases melatonin which makes you very tired and sleepy. We go off into a dream world every night and this dream world is hidden from our daytime, conscious selves. It is a natural separation and you are not supposed to remember it, even when you vape DMT, as you come back you quickly forget but if you have a recorder with you it will give you the ability to record what you remember as it quickly fades away, keeping our worlds separate. I also have DMT which you can get from local plants, it is the most potent of all decalcifiers but you have to be ready to surf this other world alone but with company which kinda bugs me out, lol! This stuff does not mess you up or impair you, you are sober I heard, just “somewhere else,” so you are your sober-thinking self in another place where you have no body and neither do the beings there. So the 3 things a pineal gland secretes, serotonin, melatonin, and DMT I seem deficient in all 3 and thus supplement daily with 2 of them and probably SHOULD be doing DMT, the third, but like i said that stuff intimidates me and I have done every many drugs. Most drugs are synthetic and thus very bad and will lower your vibrations where as entheogens will raise them. Banning entheogens is screwing the people keeping them entranced in this fake, materialistic existence. Watch stepping into the fire on youtube to see what ayahuasca did to a NY millionaire stock broker.. changed his life drastically. DMT is the way in and the way out of these meat sacks, I do know that much, my cousin went there and told me. When you die you are said to “give up the ghost” but what physically happens in the human body is a measurable flood of DMT… same thing happens on the 49th day of life in the womb.. a rush of DMT into the developing fetus. I hope you can tell that I am not speaking from ignorance here. Stop thinking that everything the DEA says is bad actually is. Some of these plants have amazing abilities MEANT for humans to experience but their is this evil, mental/physical/legal control mechanism that forbids it, trapping humans in these lower vibrations on purpose. If it is a plant it should not be illegal, first off. This earth is for us, not the elite or the authorities and we need to stop tolerating this tyrannical nonsense and providing the CIA with unlimited black budget funding, but I digress. All entheogens should be legal, they include all sacred and psychedelic plants and fungi. I believe it is like this: your brain can receive these signals creating a seemingly real experience and entheogens are like a cosmic dial that we can turn if we want to, enabling us to pick up extra frequencies not possible without them unless you have years of meditation experience, a NDE(near death experience), or the right binaural beats/isochronic tones but sacred plants are the best/most natural way IMO. Sacred plants aren’t drugs no matter what the bought and paid for, 10 amendment violating, DEA has to say about it. Those lies are running on fumes now anyway. You can fact-check this entire statement and you should as it is good to due your due diligence but what I said is largely hidden from the public, that is why you never heard of this but I assure what I say is verifiably true.

You sir, are an interesting individual and please do not take it the wrong way if it seems I am giving you a hard time about DMT. My intentions are good, I promise, and I only seek to wake you up about it, not misinform. I know there is knowledge contained about it that will help you and you are already well on your way so it would just compliment your understanding… I am talking about reading about the molecule, not necessarily doing it which would yield the greatest understanding I suspect though I really do not know as I have never done enough to break through to the other side.

Yes, melatonin is a sleep hormone and a super powerful antioxidant but once you get into the deeper states of sleep DMT is released and that is a psychedelic, the most powerful one in the world. I saw the way I wrote that and I didn’t like how I went into melaonin right away but I am not preparing these responses, they are off-the-cuff. Melatonin controls sleep and is a potent antioxidant, serotonin controls mood, appetite and sleep, and DMT keeps the mind healthy and is released during REM sleep, it is the compound responsible for dreaming. Here are some people on yahoo answers speaking about it, interesting stuff IMO: answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091117100219AALN2EB

I will check out that series, I appreciate the suggestion. If it woke you up some it should have an impact on myself also I would think.

Speaking to materialism and vibration energy.. aural photography can physically show you the energy/lifeforce of a living thing like a person or plant. Check this out(actual arual phtographs): atlanteanconspiracy.com/2013/07/biofield-electrography-kirlian.html – look at the difference between an organically grown mushroom versus a commercially grown one and even the pic showing a slightly cooked organic tomato versus the raw one… the raw one exhibits so much more life force/energy and we are what we eat so….

Now imagine a human that is pure with no chemicals versus a human on painkillers, pharmaceuticals, fluoride, aluminum, etc… what do you think that does to our auras? I would imagine the same thing it does to the plant’s auras.

Interesting indeed. Thanks for the knowledge, I will definitely put it to good use. I am aware of this spiritual hijacking as well as the names of the deities but I did not know the details, now I have something to use as a guide in my searches.

Have you ever heard of the Lumerians? I am wondering if they existed during this silver millennium. Apparently they went underground for some reason I am not sure of, maybe the flood.

When people are under the influence of DMT there is a report of reaching a chrysanthemum but apparently the average psychonaut does not have this experience, it is only certain people and only when they dive “deep.” This is not a mere drug trip, do not let the DEA convince you otherwise, this is a profound, special, spiritual experience, one that I have not had yet but do indeed long to.

Holy crap, I just searched the term “flower of life” and I believe we are talking about the same thing! The image results for “flower of life” look exactly like a chrysanthemum which means that the people I am thinking about and you are both speaking of the same thing. It all connects.

I was talking about mind altering drugs that people foll around with not painkillers. By the way did you miss my last comment to you about the spiritual topic?

And alcohol is a terrible mind altering drug. Granted, it’s benign if a person doesn’t over do it but so many people do. On Indian reservations around they are starting to legalize cannabis because alcohol has been SO destructive to them and they’ve realized that if they used cannabis instead they’d eliminate the destruction being brought by alcohol.

perhaps, I’ve been doing dishes. I’ll go look. I’m not trying to be a douche so don’t get that idea. We disagree on things but you do make some good arguments and I don’t mind being challenged and I can admit I don’t know as much as I’d like to but I try to be ahead of the crowd at least.

Unless I’ve missed one the last comment you made (re: the natural world teaches the females are the caring…) I did read and gave a thumbs-up. I have some thoughts on it but didn’t want to go into it now. Since you asked though there are always exceptions — even in nature. the male emperor penguin, takes equal part in raising the young. the large mouth bass: only the male protects the offspring– the female leaves and has no care in the matter etc etc. And in humans I’ve seen many cases where the mother was a psychotic B’tch and the Father was the protector and a caregiver — it happens. It would take much more typing than I can do now — gotta go. Again, I don’t mind if you make me think about stuff as long as you are being for real. There are people who have different motives. In example, I came across a guy not long ago who had a book out and appeared to be trying to start his own cult (Christian variety) but he was an extreme douche to anyone who didn’t agree with everything he said…I wasn’t easy on him but because of his methods and motives.

Wow, you are awake with a statement like that one, that is impressive. I rarely see such understanding.

I actually have a very similar story. Growing-up we were at first Lutheran but my mom decided that wasn’t strict enough so moved us to an ultra-strict (mean spirited and legalistic church) whippins were frequent because that church demanded it. They also ended-up ruining our whole family. My mom was the one who took us there so the almost made her the defacto head of house so she even … this is going to get too long. The short of it is I understand.

Esoteric tangents are my preferred course! I don’t think I saw that one or can’t recall but that is a great story. Nothing like that has ever happened to me though. Remember those people making those films are privy to info we don’t have and they will show it off in movies and such but I am preaching to choir here, lol. Everything is Sun worship, you go it! There is saturn worship also… that square hat at graduation, nobody ever asks, why square? What does that mean? it is Saturn worship and signifies a new level of indoctrination into their dogma. Mecca is a huge cube… same thing.

I will work out the yandex through mail pile setup, then we can talk freely!

Sure, it will be a few tutorials and a bit of technical setup but I will provide pictured instructions.

I always love your explanations/take on things. I know about this stuff but your comments can STILL wake me up on the same topic. Great stuff.

“THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN CONTROL PEOPLE IS TO LIE TO THEM”

“You don’t get rich writing science fiction. If you want to get rich, you start a religion.”

~ L. Ron Hubbard

You acknowledge the existence of evil spirits but yet discredit another dimension that’s just out of sight from us and a collection of ancient writing that explains it (leave all religions out of it).

don’t get me wrong. anything that is synthetic is to be avoided but plants are for medicines — different plants offer different medicines such as DMT.

Just be careful if any masculine being comes to you claiming to be Cronus, Chaos, Yahweh, Saturn, Osiris, Elohim, Lucifer, Jehovah, Allah, Satan, Zeus, Horus, Jesus, Prince Diamond, ascended master, great white brother, or any other fraudulent title. Because the true Creator of the cosmos is the Goddess Serenity so any man that appears claiming to be the Creator is a deceiver. That said it sounds like you are doing a lot of soul searching.

Don’t forget many verses like this are also in the Bible!
(Zephaniah 1:2-3) I will sweep away everything from the face of the earth,When I destroy all mankind on the face of the earth, declares the Lord. I will sweep away the birds in the sky and the fish in the sea. “When I destroy all mankind on the face of the earth,” declares the LORD.

Does that sound like it came from a loving Creator God to you? Only a very wicked hate filled destroyer would say something like that and with that in mind the bible was not inspired by the Creator Goddess it was inspired by her Nemesis the jealous god of time Cronus who wants to eliminate all life from the universe.

I have no doubt their are other dimensions but that doesn’t mean the beings that live there are good heck the dimension closest to this one is the negaverse where the most deceptive beings you could ever imagine dwell.

I hope you find the truth as well and never forget the old native American saying white man speak with forked tongue. That said Pahana the great white brother was the first white man they encountered and for all i know maybe someone in the tribe knew he was lying and said white man speak with forked tongue? That said when one looks at nature they will realize that the mother cares for and nurtures the young well in most cases the father is indifferent at best or hostile at worst. Fortunately human beings seem to be an exception to the rule because the human male has more feminine traits than any other mammal which enables a family or tribal community to thrive. That said i believe the Creator Goddess is female because a Creator needs to nurture the Creation. It would be very bad if the Creator was at all like the god of the bible whop compares himself to two selfish alpha male animals namely a lion and a ram. Truth be told a male lion kicks back and lets the lionesses do all the hunting, worse still he will push them away from the game they caught because he is selfish. The ram on the other hand will push the ewes and lambs away from the feeding dish. That said any supposed supreme being comparing themselves to selfish animals like that is not a supreme being at all. Their are hundreds of accounts describing a god with twelve disciples dying on a cross dating back 7 thousand years. The twelve disciples are the signs of the zodiac and the god they worship is the Sun. I do believe in a supreme Creator Goddess and that she loves her creation like a loving mother cares for her children.

Another good/awake comment. You should at at least learn about DMT. It is not just some stupid drug, it will most likely answer some of your questions, that is why I have it after all… but I still need to actually do it to benefit, lol. If you took the time to watch the 18minute graham hancock ted talk I linked to for you, you will see that he encountered a benevolent female entity that helped him. He calls her mother ayahuasca, she took him to what we would call hell and showed him what it was like and it had a drastic/life changing effect on him which I bet was the intended purpose all along. People quit doing drugs after these experiences also, they are so powerful and fulfilling that they seem to fill the void that an addict is trying to fill with drugs. Think about the powerful addicting abilities of heroin but yet ONE dose of Ibogaine and the person can be permanently healed from the clutches of addiction… these plants have amazing powers but the evil ones are restricting access.

Yes, you know it. My girl is all but healed from MS and the ONLY thing she does is vaporize once daily before bed. She has no side effects and although the MS symptoms can arise they are minor. Her drugs she is prescribed cost $5000 a bottle and do not work. Cannabis is is yet another plant they call a drug to keep people away from their own medicine. If you know anyone suffering from MS I can help.

I don’t care about any map on a flag it most certainly doesn’t represent our world and if it were flat the seasons would be the same all over the planet. Not only that the climate would be very similar on every point of the planet the only variation would occur up on mountains.

You are so spot on arahn… I love reading it!

Not since I was a child. When I go to the beach and look out I see no curve, when I go to a high-rise building on the upper floors I see no curve and I have pictures of that. Look at the UN logo… they know. I want to do a weather balloon experiment to get some of my own pics of the horizon line so I can observe for myself. Look at these panoramic pics: duckduckgo.com/?q=flat+earth+pics&t=ironbrowser&ia=images&iai=http%3A%2F%2F2.bp.blogspot.com%2F-cPQjbkj1D88%2FVNsuIyql6SI%2FAAAAAAAAPjQ%2FWR5X-bPX_8k%2Fs1600%2Fflat-earth-is-flat.jpg – how could they be possible on a curved planet?