Police Fatally Shoot 15-Year-Old For Allegedly Pulling A BB Gun On Them

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A member of the San Diego Police Department investigates the scene of a fatal police officer involved shooting of a 15-year-old boy in one of the parking lots in front of Torrey Pines High School, early Saturday morning. Photo Credit: San Diego Union Tribune

A member of the San Diego Police Department investigates the scene of a fatal police officer involved shooting of a 15-year-old boy in one of the parking lots in front of Torrey Pines High School, early Saturday morning. Photo Credit: San Diego Union Tribune

Two San Diego police officers shot and killed a 15-year-old who is accused of pointing a BB gun at them. Police said that the shooting took place in front of Torrey Pines High School early Saturday morning.

The teen was a freshman at the Carmel Valley school and lived in the neighborhood, yet authorities are not releasing his name because he was a juvenile. Police also claim that the person who called them to report the boy, was the teenager himself. Around 3:27 am, a call came in which asked for a welfare check. According to police homicide Lt. Mike Holden, the caller said there was a kid in front of the school who someone should probably check on and stated the person was not armed. This is the caller who police assume is the now deceased 15-year-old.

The two officers arrived at the school on Del Mar Heights Road about the same time and saw the teen. As they got out of their patrol cars to speak with him, he “pulled a handgun that was concealed in his waistband and pointed it at one of the officers,” Holden said. Both officers drew their weapons and told the boy to drop the gun, but he continued to point the gun and walk toward the one officer, Holden said. The teen ignored additional commands, and the officers, fearing for their safety, both fired, the lieutenant said. The teen was struck several times.

Officers said that they immediately began life-saving measures, and took the boy to Scripps Memorial Hospital in La Jolla for medical attention. The teenager died while at the hospital of injuries sustained by the gunshot wounds.

A growing memorial for the deceased teenager. Photo Credit: San Diego Union Tribune

A growing memorial for the deceased teenager. Photo Credit: San Diego Union-Tribune

The boy’s gun remained at the scene to be processed as evidence. Police later determined that the gun was a “semi-automatic BB air pistol,” Holden said. Holden also claims that both police officers activated their body cameras at some point, so the incident can be reviewed, but according to CNN, it is still unclear whether or not the footage will be released.

A semi-automatic BB gun air pistol. (This is NOT the gun on found at the scene of this shooting. It is a typical looking BB gun pistol.)

A semi-automatic BB gun air pistol. (This is NOT the gun found at the scene of this shooting. It is a typical looking BB gun pistol.)

The boy was described as a white male, 15-years-old, of medium build, wearing a gray shirt and black pants.

“The details of the situation are still unfolding, but whatever they are, this event is very traumatic for our students, staff, families, and community,” Eric Dill, superintendent for the San Dieguito Union High School District, said in a letter posted on the district’s website. The teen’s name was not released in the letter. “I know this is difficult, but we ask that you please refrain from conjecture or spreading rumors. This is a difficult time for the family and we need to let them mourn.” – San Diego Union Tribune

Neither officer was injured in this incident and the family of the boy doesn’t know of any note or reason as to why he would have had a BB gun around a school or why he chose to incite an altercation with police. In California, the fact that he had a BB gun near a school was cause for alarm, as the state is almost completely anti-gun. Without body camera footage, we have only the words of the police to go on right now. Could less fatal measures have been taken? It’s definitely possible that the police thought their lives were in danger, as some BB gun pistols look very real, especially at a distance. It’s hard to participate in “what-ifs” with only the witness accounts being from those who committed the fatal shooting.

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  • elbustaroyjetspeekerson

    It’s fatter-than-fat cop ass-covering time…..AGAIN.

  • Chinbato

    Point ANY gun at a cop and you’ll get shot. Plain and simple. Darwinism at its finest. The little punks family should be sued by the cops for the mental anguish they will have for having to shoot a kid.

    • Chancho_Bandito

      The cops probably got tired from high-fiving eachother back at the station
      #first_kill

    • NonYo Business

      Thank you Chin ball boy. I totally agree… Cops should just run around and kill more children. Like you said, it’s just Darwinism. That’s what cops are for.

      • Gil G

        Had the kid pointed the gun at a private citizen and got shot it would still be self defense.

        • NonYo Business

          I understand your point and it is valid, though I think you can feel the energy of a moment and I highly doubt my instinct would be to shoot to kill a young person.

          • juskom95

            And what would your alternative be exactly?

            You have someone pointing a firearm at you, you do what? Let them shoot?

            Or maybe you are one of those ignorant “Hollywood Types,” who thinks it is easy to ‘shoot to disable?’

            You’re an idiot and a cop-hater, nothing more.

          • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

            Cops in other countries manage to “shoot to disable” quite often.

          • juskom95

            No they do not. Good play on the old lie, but that is not reality and that is not how a situation like that plays out. Yes, sharp shooters train for that, but in a high stress situation trying to hit a limb instead of center mass puts others in danger.

          • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

            Icelandic cops killed their first suspect in 2013 – and the entire country went into mourning.

            It happens more often than you psychotic, bloodthirsty bootlickers imagine.

        • Pat Taylor ╚(ಠ_ಠ)=┐

          Not always so in ɐᴉuɹoɟǝᴉɯɯ0ʞ, CCW carriers in example in ɐᴉuɹoɟǝᴉɯɯ0ʞ find themselves in court defending their freedom in what are clearly self defense cases.

          Ɐᴉuɹoɟǝᴉɯɯ0ʞ doesn’t constitutionally provide rights of self defense, the state would rather you be a victim than defend yourself.

      • juskom95

        You have absolutely no clue what it is like to be involved in a shooting. Unless the barrel of a weapon is right in front of you, inches away, being able to determine if that is a firearm or a BB gun is nearly impossible.

        You’re just an ignorant cop-hater, nothing more.

        • NonYo Business

          Lol… Ok tough guy. I’m a cop hater who’s been to two police retirement parties and who had 2 police detectives at my wedding. Troll on bitch.

          • juskom95

            Which means you have not had to ‘Walk the Walk,’ and would never voice this kind of hatred to your “friends.”

            You are portraying LEO’s as pure killers, nothing more.

            You’re a troll, and what is worse, not even doing a good job at hiding it.

          • NonYo Business

            Run along now little bitch.

          • juskom95

            Which means I’m dead on with my comment. You’re a little coward, too afraid to do a job so you must belittle those who do.

        • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

          Been on the open end of a gun barrel more than once.
          Managed to not get shot, and without killing anyone.

          But then, my IQ is half again that of the average person, unlike cops.

          • juskom95

            Doubtful, very doubtful. My guess is you’re a punk and/or a thug who just wants cops to die. I can tell from your responses who and what you are.

            You can try to hide it.
            You can try to lie.
            The reality is you’re a thug and a criminal, it is dead easy to tell that by how you responds. You are they type to chant for dead cops in the streets and then complain because they stopped you from robbing someone.

            If you’re not part of the AntiFa or Sovereign Citizen movement I would be surprised. I truly hope you need officers and they decide your type is not worth the risk, because you are not.

          • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

            Poor shitferbrains. . . thinking just isn’t your strong suit – you should stick to your strength – polishing pigboots with your tongue.

            I spend too many hours working, so that air-wasters like you can walk into a store and buy food, to have spare time for robbing people.

            Anti-First Amendment scum run from people like me.

            How do you manage to get everything wrong, so often? Is it a gift? Or, do you practice a lot?

    • Were you there to know that anyone pointed anything at a cop?
      It is equally illegal for a police officer to point a gun at someone else as the reverse, if his or her life is not plausibly threatened.

      • pointman_12

        and it’s not illegal for an officer to point a gun at someone…don’t know where people get that garbage…

        • juskom95

          Officers still have a RUF to follow, and yes violating that can be against the law, it depends on the local state, count and/or city.

        • It is a threat, and in the statutes it is called assault.

          • pointman_12

            maybe in your state but in others it is not…

          • It is probably different in your padded cell, as well.

  • Clementine

    Sounds like a textbook case of “suicide by cop” to me…

    • It does, but it doesn’t justify responding to what should be a better trained sense of caution on the part of police officers that are over-reacting where they shouldn’t, based on training and experience.

      • pointman_12

        because you are trained to deal with this and everything else they encounter…whatever…

        • Pat Taylor ╚(ಠ_ಠ)=┐

          Trained in Israel to view citizens are insurgents that must be controlled at any cost.
          Cops always blow up the fear factor in their jobs, the funniest part of this fable, is the fact that its more dangerous to lobster, than it is to be a homicidal maniac employed and endorsed by the state.

          • pointman_12

            seeing that officers appear to be open targets the last couple years, i would say the fear is pretty real…why don’t you take your snowflake self and go troll somewhere else…

          • Pat Taylor ╚(ಠ_ಠ)=┐

            Snowflake, NO .. Realist, yes.

            Appearances are your false perception my antifa cupcake.

            Take a look, tell me if cops “appear” in this source

            Stop pushing false facts and being such a brown nosed fool.

          • NonYo Business

            I agree in most cases. Officers surely have a tough job and covering for incompetent badge wearing thugs is time consuming. Right Juscum95?

          • Bobby Boucher

            I encourage people to visit the ODMP (officer down memorial page). Do a little research into just how many police officers are shot and killed on duty. The numbers are relatively small (considering that there are around 750,000 gun carrying law enforcement officers in the US – city, state and federal)
            I will tell you more officers die in traffic accidents than shootings, and the number that die from shootings only changes by a small number every year – not going up steadily – but rather up some years and down the next.
            Also don’t forget that police are armed with a number of less than lethal weapons options, wear body armor, have a pistol, a shotgun and a rifle, a partner in most cases if not a radio to call for unlimited amount of backup, air surveillance support, SWAT if it gets really crazy, and time. Lots and lots of time to wait out a suspect with a gun who is alone at 3:30 in the morning.

          • Pat Taylor ╚(ಠ_ಠ)=┐

            I encourage people to keep in mind how manyncops murder citizens … The very people they pose to protect.
            Police protection, is a sham, the SCOTUS has ruled in multitudes of cases how the police have no duty to protect any citizen.
            http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-08/breakdown-us-citizens-killed-cops-2016.

          • juskom95

            Never spent a minute doing the job, have you?

        • Killing perps is not the taught way to deal with them unless there is no other way.

          • Bobby Boucher

            deadly force should be the LAST option. That’s the way it used to be.

          • juskom95

            Research “Rules on Use Of Force,” or don’t and keep up the cop-hating, because if you knew RUF you would understand why they drew their firearms.

          • pointman_12

            and that’s what they did…kid or not…he pointed a gun at them…

          • Or so you have been led to believe.

          • pointman_12

            from the story…believe me, the left leaning news isn’t going to help out the police…

      • juskom95

        You are absolutely incorrect.

        There is no real way to determine the difference between a BB gun and a firearm in the moment. If you think there is, you are someone who has never had to be in that situation and think that everything is crystal clear.

        • It is very easy to determine if a gun is being pointed at you, and even easier to tell if you are under fire.

  • rogersan

    Only problem is the bb gun would have been orange. Good luck buying one that is not that way unless the kid spray painted it. San Diego police have a reputation of shooting first and asking questions later. They gunned down a homeless guy who had a stick because he was “coming right for them”. The part they forget to mention is they had sicced a police dog on him from one side and he was running away from the dog towards the other officers on the other side. Justifiable homicide by cop. Del Mar heights road….very affluent area of San Diego, I am sure the parents are thrilled.

    • Orange coloration is a very recent change. If you are used to it being routine, you are probably not quite old enough to be my son, and possibly not my grandson either. Since all police departments are standing armies, it would be easier to court martial the miscreants for war crimes.

      • Phil_Ossifer

        Orange coloration is easily taken care of with a can of spray paint and a lot of kids do that to make their toy guns look “cool.” Could be that’s what this kid did. Regardless, it sounds like a series of very stupid actions on the kid’s part. We don’t have nearly enough details yet to be able to judge the situation accurately.

        • Quite a few people paint real guns to make them look cool.
          The only reason why the color of the gun should make a difference to a police officer is to heighten his or her attention to the deployment of the object. If it is actually pointed at a person, the target should take cover. I have had real loaded guns pointed at me at firing ranges and I responded by stepping out of line of their sights. It isn’t cause for shooting the pointer. It is cause for pointed correction of their incompetent firearm handling. It isn’t a good thing when it is that easy for a suicidal person to use a dysfunctional police officer to do their dirty work. If a police officer responds to a scene where someone is brandishing a firearm, they should remain behind cover until the person has disarmed or is incapacitated, and not necessarily by being shot if they haven’t first.

          • Bobby Boucher

            Shoot first and investigate later, that’s what the police state and all the sheeple celebrate here.
            Thanks for mentioning your incident at the range. I think from now on every time I get muzzle swept at the range I’m just going to shoot the person.
            Fuck, I feared for my life…

          • It also should be remembered that police officers, as a group, lead the statistics for both accidental shootings and suicides.
            I used to go to a police range with a friend who was a deputy sheriff. He went to do his quarterly shooting proficiency qualification. One day there was a police officer who had managed to miss the center of the target’s silhouette with two full magazines, from 7 yards. He was concerned that his job was at risk. The rangemaster told him to come back and try again next week, and put him back on the street. There might be cops out there that shoot first because they know they might miss first.

          • juskom95

            Yup, you’re an idiot and a coward.

          • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

            You just described cops perfectly.

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      • rogersan

        I think the entire concept of painting a gun orange to let people know it is fake is kind of dumb…it wouldn’t take an enterprising criminal too long to figure out that painting that .38 pistol orange might fool the cops long enough for you to shoot them. I had that thought years ago and then I did see it being done to trick people. On the other side the black spray paint or electrical tape can make anything look real. Not something I would wish to have to decide in a split second if the gun is real or fake. Pretty crap decision to have to make. Also, California has had the orange gun thing for awhile I believe like 10+ years but I may be wrong.

        • I have a Red Gun version of my Glock 19. Since that is a tactical training device that is sold in police equipment stores and catalogs, one would think that police officers would be acquainted with them, but I have been arrested several times for carrying it, as if it were a gun. The Peter Principle applies the most strongly among those in power.

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    • juskom95

      1-Depends on the age of the BB gun
      2-Spray paint is not illegal to purchase
      3-The boy allegedly called the police on himself, so that lays more credence to the fact this was “Suicide By Cop.”

      • Spray paint is illegal to purchase, many places, unless you are old enough. Allegedly is supposed to end all arguments in the absence of evidence.

      • rogersan

        Now that you mention it I think that is right about the airsoft being the orange guns. I think it was only fake guns are orange and being a bb gun…I wouldn’t want to be the cop to get that call but it does seem like a shoot first attitude. Tough call.

    • Disarmed in CA

      BB guns are never orange-tipped, those are AIRSOFT guns. BB guns are much more dangerous, but obviously not as dangerous as a department issued .40S&W

  • Dan Smith

    And how were the cops to know because from a distance that gun would look real…

    Another wasted life because of bad parenting…

    • In my experience, if he was close enough to hit with a point and shoot, they were close enough to duck and cover.

      • juskom95

        Duck and cover? Really? You have no clue about firefights, not one bit.

        You’re just marching around shouting “COPS ARE EVIL!!!!”

        You’re one of those AntiFa idiots.

        • I hope that your job doesn’t require critical thinking skills because you are evidently totally unqualified.

          • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

            And horribly outmatched by a casserole.

          • That is a really mean comparison to a innocent entree:-)

          • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

            Next time I bake a casserole, I’ll apologize profusely, and offer a portion of it to the gods. . .
            I hope it forgives me – I’ll be inconsolable for at least 10 minutes otherwise.

          • I’d ask which gods if I believed in any of them, but instead I’ll just point out that an entire casserole probably wouldn’t feed more than one a course. If it is a good one, keep it to yourself:-)

  • freefall

    Without the body cam videos, it’s their word against a dead kid. They may release it later if it makes it look like self-defense. But shooting a kid never looks good even if justified. Not enough evidence at this time to make a judgment.

    • All police car and body cams should be required to stream live onto a secure website in the public domain, because if it was captured in the public domain, there is no reason for it not to stay there. The only reason for recording onsite is backup in case the Internet is spotty on the location.

      • pointman_12

        you can’t do that…not all cases end up with someone getting shot and killed…either way, it would taint potential jury pool…

        • The mainstream media does it for hours every day. If something happens in public, it should be made as public as possible. The facts don’t taint any jury, they just inform them and prevent miscarriages of justice, like acquittals being turned into mistrials. If you want star chambers, you’ll eventually find out that one has indicted and convicted you of something you know nothing about.

          • pointman_12

            you mean how you are convicting these 2 officers?…whatever…get out of moms basement…

        • Pat Taylor ╚(ಠ_ಠ)=┐

          It would bring much needed scrutiny to all police actions.

          • pointman_12

            or you could wait for the grand jury…

          • Pat Taylor ╚(ಠ_ಠ)=┐

            Grand jurys are nothing short of shams.
            I won’t bother posting a link to the myriad of references validating my statement, Google is easy to use, even for shallow pond guppies such as yourself.

          • Google is useless lacking critical thinking skills.
            If a grand jury is closed, it is better to call it a star chamber.

          • Pat Taylor ╚(ಠ_ಠ)=┐

            Grand juries are as meaningless as Google.

          • Except Google can’t get you thrown into jail.

          • Pat Taylor ╚(ಠ_ಠ)=┐

            But, ones actions against Google can get one thrown in jail.

            The people of this country need to realize that they are law, without their consent, kangaroo courts that are run in the name of corporate profits would not exist, truly constitutional law would apply as it was intended to be — the law of the land –.

          • They shouldn’t have abdicated when they were given the chance following the ratification of the Constitution.

          • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

            Grand juries will indict a ham sandwich, or so the saying goes. . . before they’ll indict a cowardly donut grazer for killing an innocent person.

  • Chancho_Bandito

    Hooray!!! now the cops take one taxpayer out of circulation……

  • Any police officer that did this in my county probably wouldn’t need to talk to a judge before he was examined by a coroner. There are 14 guns per capita here, and open and/or concealed carry is common enough to be unnoticeable except by tourists. When tourists call dispatch, they are frequently told, “Welcome to Wyoming.” The Second Amendment is actively practised here.

  • Phil_Ossifer

    Assuming that the details in the article are accurate (I’m not saying they are) the kid violated a basic rule: NEVER point a weapon at a police officer and always follow the officer’s instructions whether you agree with them or not. The officers gave the kid a chance to surrender but he kept coming at them. GIs in Vietnam learned the hard way that young children could no only carry weapons but could use them and modern cops in certain jurisdictions have learned the same thing. Why the kid acted like he did, nobody seems to know, and it’ll probably be some time before any more information is released.

    • Which officer are you?

    • Bobby Boucher

      I’ll wait for the video to make a judgement. Its my opinion that police shouldn’t fire unless fired upon. They don’t want to die on the job – go work in sales.

      • BINGO

      • pointman_12

        you wait, you might not go home…action is faster than reaction…try it at home with finger guns…you hold your hand out and have you buddy pull his hand from his pocket and “shoot” you…you will lose 90% of the time…and then you think you are fancy and shoot him before he pulls his hand and it’s a cell phone…none of you know what you would do in these circumstances until you live them…

        • Bobby Boucher

          To protect and serve.
          Neither is nor was accomplished by shooting a kid with a BB gun.
          You can’t wait – then don’t be a cop, go work at best buy.
          You don’t want to put your life at risk to protect and serve, go work at starbucks.
          Plenty of other jobs for people not willing to put their life on the line in return for killing others.
          Cops wear body armor, carry non- lethal weapons up the ass, have a handgun, a shot gun, a rifle, a radio to call for backup and access to all kinds of support. They shot the kid at 3:30 in the morning – who were they worried about getting hurt other then themselves..which as I mentioned previously, is WHAT THEY GET FUCKING PAID TO DO..

          • pointman_12

            they got paid to do exactly what they did…don’t like it, move somewhere else…you don’t bring a taser to a gunfight…bb gun or not, you don’t know that when it’s pointed at you…go fuck yourself…

          • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

            They get paid to apprehend people suspected of committing a crime.

            They’re not paid to act as Judge, Jury, and Executioner – that’s why we pay people – entirely too much – to be Judges, force people to be jurors for a pittance, and pay others – again, entirely too much – to be Executioners.

          • pointman_12

            they get paid to get the job done, however that may be…you don’t have to like it…if you think it’s so easy, go put on the uniform…

          • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

            Wrong.

            “By any means necessary” is the credo of cowards and authoritarian bootlickers.

            They have one (1) job. . . and killing people isn’t it.

          • pointman_12

            says the person too afraid to put on the uniform…because it’s the easiest job in the world according to you…

          • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

            Yeah – I’ve said “it’s the easiest job in the world” so many times, you could probably find a record of it, and prove it, instead of just spewing crap out of your noise hole.

            I have the scars to prove my willingness to put myself in harm’s way for what’s right.

          • pointman_12

            so why the hate for police?

          • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

            Because they’re naught but criminals. Heavily-armed, cowardly, criminals.
            Their job doesn’t even breach the Top 10 Most Dangerous, but they act as if they have the most dangerous job on the planet, and will kill anyone who stands in their way.
            In the average year, police kill 4 times more people than the number of police who die in the line of duty.
            They steal a third more property than “official” criminals do – in 2014, almost $5Bn in property was stolen by police, compared to $3.5Bn stolen by “criminals.”

            When police return to being “Peace Officers,” rather than acting like ‘roided-out thugs, they’ll have begun to re-earn the respect I once had for them. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ad82ca67a2befa3dc6f2c0fd714bfff644170e838ceba0dcfca5342b7475ef20.jpg

          • pointman_12

            doctors kill more people than anyone…you hate them too?…and they steal us blind…

          • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

            There is accountability in medicine – which is why doctors carry malpractice insurance.

          • pointman_12

            there is about as much accountability in the medical field as there is in government…very few people get paid from a hospital…

          • pointman_12

            you need a hug or something…maybe some meds…hate will kill you

          • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

            Love for criminals will kill others. . .

          • pointman_12

            because we know you couldn’t do it…too scared…prob a dope smoker…

      • juskom95

        So . . . you believe someone should not defend themselves until they have received a life-threatening injury?

        • NonYo Business

          Who hired this Troll anyway? He’s everywhere on this discussion.

          • Bobby Boucher

            Fuck you dip shit. Been here since before you were a stain in your mothers underwear.
            How much cop dick do you suck?

          • NonYo Business

            Thanks for Joining Bobby… You are good at this Trolling thing too! I see you have those atta boy knee pads… good for you.

          • juskom95

            No, it is just funny seeing all of the cop-hate here from those (like yourself) who were simply too chicken to put on the uniform and wear the badge.

            You are a coward and the only way you can make yourself feel better is to attempt to belittle and demonize those who do what you are afraid to do.

          • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

            *ahem* News Flash, Turbo – the badge-wearing donut grazers are the cowards.

            Police officer doesn’t even rate in the top 10 most dangerous jobs. . . but somehow the heavily-armed pants-pissers have gulled the intellectually bankrupt (you, for example) into believing that their job is so dangerous.

            I am more likely to die “in the line of duty” than a cop.

          • juskom95

            I never said most dangerous I said it was the result of being a coward. Now If you’re going to jump in, at least try to avoid being disingenuous. I know its hard for the cop-haters like yourself, but try.

            What I noticed is that everyone who is too afraid to wear the uniform (yes, coward, you) are the one’s second-guessing these officers.

            How many armed confrontations have you been in your field? I’m guessing it is probably around a big fat ZERO, but you feel you are an expert on deciphering the difference between a BB gun and a firearm with %100 certainty, right?

            So come on coward, step up and regale us with all of the stories you have where you had to face down a gun and decide “Do I shoot or don’t I?” Reality is I know that you have never done that, and you would be the first person to call on an officer to come protect you, and you would be one of the last to deserve it.

          • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

            I’ve been on the open end of a gun 3 times. First one was an Uzi.
            Got out of all 3 without killing anyone.

            I haven’t called a heavily-armed coward in over a decade.
            I protect myself, since cops don’t protect anyone, ever.

        • Bobby Boucher

          My job is to protect myself and my family.
          A cops job while on duty is to protect and serve the citizens of the city or county or district he works for.
          Was there a report of a shooting? no
          Was there a report of a robbery? no
          It was a report of a welfare check. Made most likely by the kid himself.
          Maybe you like how our police state now celebrates shoot first and ask questions later, but I don’t.
          By the way – every fucking article says at the end “the officers were not hurt”. I’m sure that brings a lot of comfort to the kids parents.
          And before you want to troll on me as an ANTIFA or BLM – fuck you, I’m a Libertarian.

          • juskom95

            1-There was a report of a man with a gun, at a school
            2-The suspect pointed what appeared to be a firearm at the officers

            You’re not Libertarian, you are at best and anarchist cop-hater. Now if you were truly Libertarian, you would not be pulling ‘talking points,’ and ‘rhetoric,’ straight from AntiFa. When you stop using their ‘talking points,’ maybe I believe you, but you’re using their rhetoric almost verbatim . . . you’re not a Libertarian, good try though.

            So . . . how many incidents like this have you been involved in, to judge these officers from your vast store of experience?

  • pointman_12

    good to see all these monday morning quarterbacks here…don’t see any of you wearing the uniform…you know, bad guys spray real guns with orange tips to make you think they are bb/toy guns…how about you all wait until there is more to go on before making a rash judgement…

    • This is sunday. If you wear a uniform, do you keep your oath? Most of the people who wear military uniforms didn’t. If you are going to make a rash judgement, you need to judge the guy the most fingers are pointing at first.

  • James

    In America cops point guns at people all the time & do not get shot. Often for personal reasons of there own. So under equal rights I would think the kid had the right to shoot first. But He did need a real gun in his hand to do this. So the cops won that one.

  • Gil G

    Gee, I thought there was right to pretend to threaten or harm others . Another Darwin Award has been earned.

    • juskom95

      It is if you’re a “Poor Innocent Kid,” didn’t you know that?

      • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

        Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

  • Bill L

    Sounds like suicide by cop if this kid called them. How sad.

    • BW83

      Seems to be exactly what it was.

      This “kid” was 15. He knew exactly what he was doing when he pointed the air gun at them. I’m not thrilled with the result, but at the same time I’m not damning the officers involved either. They got a suspicion person call, showed up, then had a gun pointed at them. Trained or not, good luck telling the difference, and it’s foolish to think they should have to receive fire before returning fire. The “kid” (I only call him that due to his age) made his choice and suffered the consequence of said bad choice.

      • Bill L

        Any form of law officer would have had to drop the suspect. They were a potential threat not just to the police but anyone he came in contact with. I may have been young and dumb myself as a teenager, but not that way. GOD help and comfort his loved ones.

  • Pat Taylor ╚(ಠ_ಠ)=┐

    San Diego police are chronic pussies, their motto is shoot first and paint the picture later.
    The lesbo police captain Shelly Zimmerman always remembers to step in front of the camera to praise her homicidal minions in black.

    • juskom95

      You are, simply put, an idiotic cop-hater. So far everything you have spewed is right from the AntiFa playbook.

      • Pat Taylor ╚(ಠ_ಠ)=┐

        And you are just narrow minded fool.
        You are only attempting to shut down the conversation in attempting to align me in any way with antifa.

        If you support cowards that hide behind the badge and qualified immunity, you stand behind the destruction of constitutional rights as well as endorse killing out of baseless fear.

  • nlightened2

    A bb/pellet gun will typically fire projectiles at 1200fps or faster making them very lethal weapons. Their tips are not orange in color like air soft guns because of their lethality. I say ‘Good Shoot.”

    • Oboehner

      “accused of pointing a BB gun at them”

      • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

        Right – “accused,” not “convicted.”

        Yet executed anyway. . .

        • Oboehner

          Yup.

  • chrism12743

    3:30 in the morning and this kid is on the street? Then points a gun at the cops? I don’t know about others, I would have done the same thing. The cops gave this kid every opportunity to drop the weapon.

    • PopDeGator

      A kid with a gun in front of a school at 3:30AM. It was dark. Even in broad daylight it would have been tough to tell if it was a toy gun or a real one. Kid was probably drunk or high on something. Pointing a gun or anything that looks like a gun at a cop is a very stupid thing to do. Darwin Award winner.

  • i’m right

    white kid, not newsworthy…

  • RMS1911

    http://www.killedbypolice.net
    understand ⅓ of the people killed in a year had no reason at all to be in “contact” with the police so they should still be alive. the total number killed by the police will be over 1000 a year.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/80538f185387a0f3029634040b5f1df5245a21d31b2b30040d2d278740692f3a.png
    taken from a PDF of officer deaths by year .
    http://www.nleomf.org/facts/officer-fatalities-data/year.html

  • Ken, Megapolis

    Personally I find Police to represent a greater threat than the thieves. I also worry that any technology claiming to protect me from the Islamists can one day enslave me and leave my hungry, barefoot and guilty of any charge they care to invent.
    I am pretty sure the gun business is booming in England. I live there.
    Since 1066 this country has never been invaded and we laugh at the idea that a new Ruler can just walk over us🇬🇧

  • PopDeGator

    I suspect SSRIs will factor into this somehow.