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Pay for Comments – Confessions of a Paid Disinformation Internet Shill

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The Tap Blog
October 14th, 2012
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By ExShill -Reposted from ATS Forums

Note from WuW:

Government trolls. Disinformation shills. Call them what you want, they are real.

Every day at WuW, we see “comments” submitted on our articles that are blatantly composed by trolls. Lengthy, well written comments designed to steer the conversation in a pro-government, pro-status quo direction. They pose as readers and first-time commenters, but post essay length commentary quoting “expert” government research on a range of topics, question those who question the government line, and urge us to believe in the path chosen for us by our trusted leaders. If we believe them, everything is and has always been ok. No further questions need to be asked. Those who do are paranoid.

Site moderation is something we take very seriously at WuW. We offer a platform for different voices and opinions to be expressed, and it is therefore quite rare that we suppress a reader’s comment from being posted on the site. But we’re not stupid, and we won’t let our site be undermined. We know government trolls and paid disinformation shills are real, and we can pick their work a mile away. It has a certain… quality. And they prove us right! The troll comments we supress are often re-submitted, again and again, word for word, from a variety of reader aliases and email addresses.

Like I said… we’re not stupid.

This is the story of a man who, due to economically hard times, accepted a job as an internet disinformation shill. After only 6 months, he resigned. He was no longer was able to look himself in the mirror.

…..I am writing here (ATS Forum) to come out of the closet as a paid shill. For a little over six months, I was paid to spread disinformation and argue political points on the Internet. ATS was NOT one that I was assigned to post on, although other people in the same organization were paid to be here, and I assume they still walk among you. But more on this later.

I quit this job in the latter part of 2011, because I became disgusted with it, and with myself. I realized I couldn’t look myself in the mirror anymore. If this confession triggers some kind of retribution against me, so be it. Part of being a real man in this world is having real values that you stand up for, no matter what the consequences.

My story begins in early 2011. I had been out of work for almost a year after losing my last job in tech support. Increasingly desperate and despondent, I jumped at the chance when a former co-worker called me up and said she had a possible lead for me. “It is an unusual job, and one that requires secrecy. But the pay is good. And I know you are a good writer, so its something you are suited for.” (Writing has always been a hobby for me). She gave me only a phone-number and an address, in one of the seedier parts of San Francisco, where I live. intrigued, I asked her for the company’s URL and some more info. She laughed. “They don’t have a website. Or even a name. You’ll see. Just tell them I referred you.” Yes, it sounded suspicious, but long-term joblessness breeds desperation, and desperation has a funny way of overlooking the suspicious when it comes to putting food on the table.

The next day, I arrived at the address – the third floor in a crumbling building. The appearance of the place did not inspire confidence. After walking down a long, filthy linoleum-covered corridor lit by dimly-flickering halogen, I came to the entrance of the office itself: a crudely battered metal door with a sign that said “United Amalgamated Industries, Inc.” I later learned that this “company” changed its name almost monthly, always using bland names like that which gave no strong impression of what the company actually does. Not too hopeful, I went inside. The interior was equally shabby. There were a few long tables with folding chairs, at which about a dozen people were tapping away on old, beat-up computers. There were no decorations or ornaments of any type: not even the standard-issue office fica trees or plastic ferns. What a dump. Well, beggars can’t be choosers.

The manager, a balding man in his late forties, rose from the only stand-alone desk in the room and came forward with an easy smile. “You must be Chris. Yvette [my ex-co-worker] told me you’d be coming.” [Not our real names]. “Welcome. Let me tell you a little about what we do.” No interview, nothing. I later learned they took people based solely on referral, and that the people making the referrals, like my ex-colleague Yvette, were trained to pick out candidates based on several factors including ability to keep one’s mouth shut, basic writing skills, and desperation for work.

We sat down at his desk and he began by asking me a few questions about myself and my background, including my political views (which were basically non-existent). Then he began to explain the job. “We work on influencing people’s opinions here,” is how he described it. The company’s clients paid them to post on Internet message boards and popular chatrooms, as well as in gaming forums and social networks like Facebook and MySpace. Who were these clients? “Oh, various people,” he said vaguely. “Sometimes private companies, sometimes political groups.” Satisfied that my political views were not strong, he said I would be assigned to political work. “The best people for this type of job are people like you, without strong views,” he said with a laugh. “It might seem counterintuitive, but actually we’ve found that to be the case.” Well, OK. Fine. As long as it comes with a steady paycheck, I’d believe whatever they wanted me to believe, as the guy in Ghostbusters said.

After discussing pay (which was much better than I’d hoped) and a few other details, he then went over the need for absolute privacy and secrecy. “You can’t tell anyone what we do here. Not your wife, not your dog.” (I have neither, as it happens.) “We’ll give you a cover story and even a phone number and a fake website you can use. You will have to tell people you are a consultant. Since your background is in tech support, that will be your cover job. Is this going to be a problem for you?” I assured him it would not. “Well, OK. Shall we get started?”

“Right now?” I asked, a bit taken aback.

“No time like the present!” he said with a hearty laugh.

The rest of the day was taken up with training. Another staff member, a no-nonsense woman in her thirties, was to be my trainer, and training would only last two days. “You seem like a bright guy, you’ll get the hang of it pretty fast, I think,” she said. And indeed, the job was easier than I’d imagined. My task was simple: I would be assigned to four different websites, with the goal of entering certain discussions and promoting a certain view. I learned later that some of the personnel were assigned to internet message boards (like me), while others worked on Facebook or chat rooms  It seems these three types of media each have different strategy for shilling, and each shill concentrates on one of the three in particular.

My task? “To support Israel and counter anti-Israeli, anti-Semitic posters.” Fine with me. I had no opinions one way or another about Israel, and who likes anti-Semites and Nazis? Not me, anyway. But I didn’t know too much about the topic. “That’s OK,” she said. “You’ll pick it up as you go along. For the most part, at first, you will be doing what we call “meme-patrol.” This is pretty easy. Later if you show promise, we’ll train you for more complex arguments, where more in-depth knowledge is necessary.”

She handed me two binders with sheets enclosed in limp plastic. The first was labeled simply “Israel” in magic-marker on the cover, and it had two sections .The first section contained basic background info on the topic. I would have to read and memorize some of this, as time went on. It had internet links for further reading, essays and talking points, and excerpts from some history books. The second, and larger, section was called “Strat” (short for “strategy”) with long lists of “dialogue pairs.” These were specific responses to specific postings. If a poster wrote something close to “X,” we were supposed to respond with something close to “Y.” “You have to mix it up a bit, though,” said my trainer. “Otherwise it gets too obvious. Learn to use a thesaurus.” This section also contained a number of hints for de-railing conversations that went too far away from what we were attempting. These strategies included various forms of personal attacks, complaining to the forum moderators, smearing the characters of our opponents, using images and icons effectively, and even dragging the tone of the conversation down with sexual innuendo, links to pornography, or other such things. “Sometimes we have to fight dirty,” or trainer told us. “Our opponents don’t hesitate to, so we can’t either.”

The second binder was smaller, and it contained information specific to the web sites I would be assigned to. The sites I would work were: Godlike Productions, Lunatic Outpost, CNN news, Yahoo News, and a handful of smaller sites that rotated depending on need. As stated, I was NOT assigned to work ATS (although others in my group were), which is part of the reason I am posting this here, rather than elsewhere. I wanted to post this on Godlike Productions at first, but they have banned me from even viewing that site for some reason (perhaps they are onto me?). But if somebody connected with this site can get the message to them, I think they should know about it, because that was the site I spent a good 70% of my time working on.

The site-specific info in the second binder included a brief history each site, including recent flame-wars, as well as info on what to avoid on each site so as not to get banned. It also had quite detailed info on the moderators and the most popular regged posters on each site: location (if known), personality type, topics of interest, background sketch, and even some notes on how to “push the psychological buttons” of different posters. Although I didn’t work for ATS, I did see they had a lot of info on your so-called “WATS” posters here (the ones with gold borders around their edges). “Focus on the popular posters,” my trainer told me. “These are the influential ones. Each of these is worth 50 to 100 of the lesser known names.” Each popular poster was classified as “hostile,” “friendly,” or “indifferent” to my goal. We were supposed to cultivate friendship with the friendly posters as well as the mods (basically, by brown nosing and sucking up), and there were even notes on strategies for dealing with specific hostile posters. The info was pretty detailed, but not perfect in every case. “If you can convert one of the hostile posters from the enemy side to our side, you get a nice bonus. But this doesn’t happen too often, sadly. So mostly you’ll be attacking them and trying to smear them.”

At first, like I said, my job was “meme-patrol.” This was pretty simple and repetitive; it involved countering memes and introducing new memes, and didn’t demand much in-depth knowledge of the subject. Mostly just repetitive posting based on the dialogue pairs in the “Strat” section of the first binder. A lot of my job was de-railing and spamming threads that didn’t go our way, or making accusations of racism and anti-Semitism. Sometimes I had to simply lie and claim a poster said something or did something “in another thread” they really hadn’t said or done I felt bad about this…but in the end I felt worse about the possibility of losing the first job I’d been able to get since losing my “real” job.

The funny thing was, although I started the job with no strong opinions or political views, after a few weeks of this I became very emotionally wedded to the pro-Israel ideas I was pushing. There must be some psychological factor at work…a good salesman learns to honestly love the products he’s selling, I guess. It wasn’t long before my responses became fiery and passionate, and I began to learn more about the topic on my own. “This is a good sign,” my trainer told me. “It means you are ready for the next step: complex debate.”

The “complex debate” part of the job involved a fair amount of additional training, including memorizing more specific information about the specific posters (friendly and hostile) I’d be sparring with. Here, too, there were scripts and suggested lines of argument, but we were given more freedom. There were a lot of details to this more advanced stage of the job – everything from how to select the right avatar to how to use “demotivationals” (humorous images with black borders that one finds floating around the web). Even the proper use of images of cats was discussed. Sometimes we used faked or photo-shopped images or doctored news reports (something else that bothered me).

I was also given the job of tying to find new recruits, people “like me” who had the personality type, ability to keep a secret, basic writing/thinking skills, and desperation necessary to sign on a shill. I was less successful at this part of the job, though, and I couldn’t find another in the time I was there.

After a while of doing this, I started to feel bad. Not because of the views I was pushing (as I said, I was first apolitical, then pro-Israel), but because of the dishonesty involved. If my arguments were so correct, I wondered, why did we have to do this in the first place? Shouldn’t truth propagate itself naturally, rather than through, well…propaganda? And who was behind this whole operation, anyway? Who was signing my paychecks? The stress of lying to my parents and friends about being a “consultant” was also getting to me. Finally, I said enough was enough. I quit in September 2011. Since then I’ve been working a series of unglamorous temp office jobs for lower pay. But at least I’m not making my living lying and heckling people who come online to express their views and exercise freedom of speech.

A few days ago I happened to be in the same neighborhood and on a whim thought I’d check out the old office. It turns out the operation is gone, having moved on. This, too, I understood, is part of their strategy: Don’t stay in the same place for too long, don’t keep the same name too long, move on after half a year or so. Keeping a low profile, finding new employees through word of mouth: All this is part of the shill way of life. But it is a deceptive way of life, and no matter how noble the goals (I remain pro-Israel, by the way), these sleazy means cannot be justified by the end.

This is my confession. I haven’t made up my mind yet about whether I want to talk more about this, so if I don’t respond to this thread, don’t be angry. But I think you should know: Shills exist. They are real. They walk among you, and they pay special attention to your popular gold-bordered WATS posters. You should be aware of this. What you choose to do with this awareness is up to you.

Yours,

ExShill

TAP
Sent in by Julia for WASP to enjoy!
I think we know who the shills are on The Tap.  I just delete them, or if they’re being occasionally fractionally interesting, or especially dumb, I leave them in the comments for other readers to decide how to deal with them.  The funny thing is that most of them work 9-5, and they start on Monday morning like clockwork.  Real blog traffic goes on 24/7.  The paedophile protection unit works office hours.  That’s what shills are, basically.

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  • philip

    I don’t believe a word of this.

  • Marko

    Bravo Sierra

  • http://T Evie

    The majority do not read coments.

  • freepalestine

    I don’t get at all how that guy can honestly remain pro-israel after what he himself did and saw on a daily basis.

    And for that reason i also don’t buy that he really regrets it or something. He just craves attention.

  • Bob

    Perhaps those above and below me are shills too?

  • MoneyMike

    So what happens when 2 paid shills unknowingly get into a debate with each other?

    • Mojo Nixon

      “So what happens when 2 paid shills unknowingly get into a debate with each other?”

      That situation is reserved for congress, the supreme court and the senate.

  • glacialhills

    Hell, Where do I sign up? You should be able to do this from anywhere right? I would love a good paying job being pro Israel and doing what I do anyway, all the time I blow posting on various sites for free because I am a disabled vet and I dont have/cant find a job.And specially if someone from San Fran says its good pay, it would be astronomical pay for here in the rustbelt.

    There are so many others in my area that have had to resort to selling drugs or prostitution or are scrap pickers or fast food workers with degrees,I have an associates. I think this would be an up grade from any of those jobs, and some of those jobs are illegal, this one is just mildly morally questionable.

    I hate trolls, but if I could be paid well to do it,I could do it and have no problem being hated, Its not like I have to hurt someone,just maybe their feelings. I have done worse for a living.

    So one of you shills please let me know where I can do this. I will even work for 10% less pay than your San Fran Co workers.

  • dan

    ….glacial…if you’ve completely lost your sense of honor you could always milk sympathy and become a politician.I thank you for your service just as I’m sure you’d thank me….now get a grip and BE the change.

    • Anonymous

      Thanks for steering me back to the light Dan. And yes thank you

  • http://T Evie

    People get paid to coment? Often wondered if some any way.really believed what they say or are they trying to sway. Most are nuts

  • glacialhills

    Thanks for steering me back to the light Dan,and yes thank you for your service. I was only partially serious.

  • Mossad

    I guess we must put the Xshill on our “retirement” list.

    Didn’t he like the medical support ? The free dental and eyeglasses insurance ?

  • Lisa

    There is a vast web of people in America who are paid to tell lies and belittle those who try to present the truth in internet and mainstream media discussions. This is one of the main PR techniques used by controlling corporations who prof
    it from these lies. I know this from my extensive work promoting the truth about the dangers of wireless radiation in the media (See: http://www.EMRActionDay.org / HarmonicPlanet.org ). 90% of America’s media is now controlled by 6 megacorporations who actively censor the truth about their activities from society. These corporations think they have the truth game all buttoned up, but believe me, you can tell a shill a mile away and people are now catching on to their devious games.

  • http://mindtaker.blogspot.com Drunken Economist

    OF COURSE shills exist. You didn’t think the LameScream Media would take all this private individual blogging laying down, right? OF COURSE they have PR folks trolling the blogs.

    First they trolled you thru the TV & Print, promulgating messages for your sponsors. Then you turned them off (lowest viewership on record ever for CNN & Fox, newspapers dying), then they came to you.

    Saying “there are no shills” is like saying “there are no lobbyists” in DC.

    They’re both the same type of beast. One is just closer to the money.

    -Drunken Economist
    http://mindtaker.blogspot.com/
    http://twitter.com/drunk_economist

  • Connie Tea

    The Obama communists will do and say anything. Sadly, people today are so poorly educated that they will believe anything the Chicago Jesus Propaganda Mill puts out to the internet. America is finished.

  • Andrew

    Ill troll for $$$$ Where do I apply?

  • http://bugoutwhale.com FACT CHECKER

    everyone is just reposting this HOAX of a article… ATS has even called it a hoax and has a disclaimer poster above the article…

  • http://sebastianmustdie.com David

    In the latest unemployment thread it is evidenced that there is a paid shill who frequents the thread to disrupt it. I have provided a link to the most recent thread so you can decide yourself;

    http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/926844-unemployment-benefits-extension-2014-obama-touts-economic-gains/

    The character Sebastian Klay whose real name turns out to be Chad Edward Hatten who is a convicted criminal with the Shadow Crew is the person starting all the trouble and making threats to those who post their opinions. Any help anyone can provide on getting him permanently banned would be appreciated. It makes you start thinking that the sites that allow him to get away with it are a part of it as well.

  • http://sebastianmustdie.com David

    Anyone interested in discussing this issue further can reach me at ddobbins236@aol.com

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