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News Services Fake Dorner Manifesto, Quick-Shooting Police Mistake Little Women for a Big Man

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February 10th, 2013
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by Ruth Hull

Warning to all women. If you are young or old, and especially if you are unarmed, watch out for the police as they may mistake you for a fully armed big muscular male former police officer and shoot you.

Ask Maggie Carranza and Emma Hernandez, both of whom were mistaken for Chris Dorner and shot by the police. Neither were armed. It didn’t matter than Emma was 71 and a much smaller build than a big muscular guy. The police have made it clear that it is shoot to kill and shooting the wrong people is preferable to shooting nobody at all.

What odds do you think the real Chris Dornan has of being brought in alive? In your own self-defense, you might want to call LAPD media relations at 213 486 5900 and ask that they bring Dorner in alive and STOP SHOOTING PEOPLE before you wind up their next accidental target.

Police corruption is a real problem in the Southland and this real problem is brought out in Chris Dorner’s manifesto. I’m talking about the real manifesto and not the fake one you saw on Drudge, CNN, CounterPunch or a number of other sites that put ratings above truth and human life. For the real version, check out the articles at OEN and Facebook by former six term Congresswoman and American hero Cynthia McKinney who was alerted to the plight of Chris Dorner by Michael Rupperrt a former LAPD officer who is an expert on corruption within that department.

The fake additions/changes to the manifesto presented by the mainstream media to garner higher ratings don’t even match the writing style or educational level of the rest of the manifesto and are clearly fake additions/chances. They are clearly put in there by someone with a political agenda, who is using an unfortunate situation to push for legislation. Former LAPD Officer Dorner was concerned about corruption, not politics. He was writing about his personal observations, experiences and anger at the local authorities. The fake changes/additions are clearly not written by Dorner.

If you want juicy passages on Obama and his misses, you will probably be disappointed with the real manifesto. It doesn’t even mention the Obamas or the Bushes and it definitely doesn’t disparage Michelle in any way. It’s not going to sell news stories. No wonder CNN, Drudge and CounterPunch don’t like the real one. But the fake version riles people up against someone who never said those things and makes it more acceptable to kill a potentially innocent man. What should be done about media outlets that put false words into the mouth of someone in danger of being killed over those words?

While the real manifesto names some potentially corrupt officers and chiefs, politicians are left out of the mix and so are their wives. Chris Dorner was too busy writing about police corruption to discuss Washington politicos and legislation. After you ask the LAPD to stop shooting people, I suggest you notify any media outlets distributing the false manifesto that you are cancelling your subscriptions to them and placing them in the “yellow journalism” round file.

We do not know if Dorner is still alive or will live long enough to tell his story. If the police keep shooting people, there is a good chance he and others will not be able to say anything. In the Dorner case, it is interesting that those who most need to speak are dead or likely to die. With Dorner, the truth dies too.

I present here the Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution:

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Due process of law does not translate into getting splattered with bullets fired by cops shooting everyone who looks like a man or a woman. There is also a corresponding Due Process Clause in the 14th Amendment, through which most parts of the Bill of Rights (including the 5th and 6th Amendments) are applied to the state and local governments.

The Sixth Amendment is also important:

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.

Is banning the press helicopters and simply shooting a man in the woods, law enforcement’s idea of a public and speedy trial by a jury of the man’s peers? If you think the framers had something else in mind, the LAPD phone number is up above.

Someone went to a lot of trouble to fake a manifesto. This leads to the question, “What else did they fake?” Did this man do anything other than blow the whistle on corrupt police practices? Once lies start, where do they end? If they start with a fake manifesto, do they go on to include falsely attributed killings? By releasing a fake version of the manifesto, the authorities and press have opened the door to wide speculation that this man may have been framed in every other way.

Dorner may be as bad as they claim, but those who presented the fake manifesto have lost their credibility with respect to this particular suspect and maybe other suspects as well. In releasing the fake manifesto, somebody or somebodies are making a strong effort to turn public opinion against Dorner. Why such a strong effort? What is the real threat this man poses? Could this be just a man who came across some dangerous information?

Let’s look at the more authentic version of the manifesto to find out what is taking place on the LAPD and what they may want to hide.

“In 8/07 I reported an officer (Ofcr. XXXX/now a Sergeant), for kicking a suspect (excessive force) during a Use of Force while I was assigned as a patrol officer at LAPD’s Harbor Division. While cuffing the suspect, (XXXXX), XXXX kicked the suspect twice in the chest and once in the face. The kick to the face left a visible injury on the left cheek below the eye.”

Wait a minute. So Dorner doesn’t like violence against a potentially innocent suspect. It would be nice if more officers opposed police violence.

“While traveling back to the station in a 12 passenger van I heard XXXX refer to another individual as a n-word. I wasn’t sure if I heard correctly as there were many conversations in the van that was compiled of at least 8 officers and he was sitting in the very rear and me in the very front. Even with the multiple conversations and ambient noise I heard Officer XXXX call an indivdual a n-word again. Now that I had confirmed it, I told XXXX not to use that word again. I explained that it was a well-known offensive word that should not be used by anyone. He replied, “I’ll say it when I want”. Officer XXXX, a friend of his, also stated that he would say n-word when he wanted.”

Is he saying officers on the LAPD are racist? So Mark Fuhrman wasn’t a fantasy conjured up by OJ? And are these same racist officers now planning to kill Dorner, a Black man? There couldn’t be racism involved in this armed lynching of a Black man, could there?

“She (Sgt. XXXX) found it very funny and entertaining to draw blood from suspects and arrestees. At one point she even intentionally ripped the flesh off the arm of a woman we had arrested for battery (sprayed her neighbor with a garden water hose). Knowing the woman had thin elastic skin, she performed an Indian burn to the woman’s arm after cuffing her. That woman was in her mid-70′s, a mother and grandmother, and was angry at her tenants who failed to pay rent on time.”

More witnessed misconduct. I wonder if the 70-something woman has filed suit against the LAPD.

“or when the other guys on your watch beat a transient nearly to death…”

Couldn’t those officers get the death penalty if Dorner testifies? Does that make it self-defense to kill Dorner, the witness?

“I’ve heard many officers who state they see dead victims as ATV’s, Waverunners, RV’s and new clothes for their kids.”

Nice guys.

The last part of the manifesto makes it clear that he respects the U.S. Government. Much of the “attack” rhetoric towards the end with respect to corrupt cops could be interpreted in different ways, such a plan for cyber attacks, discouraging anyone from helping save the lives of rogue officers when they get into trouble, fighting those who are attacking innocent suspects, starting a revolt against the police or just plain fierce rhetoric to discourage the police from coming after him.

Of course, after seeing the trouble someone went to push the obviously false version, you never know if some of these other passages were faked by someone more professional. In fact, Dorner might not have written anything. In 1984, Goldstein didn’t write his book. O’Brien was the primary author.

We also cannot be certain that Dorner killed anyone. If the police could mistake a 71-year-old woman for Dorner, maybe it was a 71-year-old woman who committed the murders with which they are crediting him, or maybe those who were killed were blowing the whistle like Dorner…

If the LAPD doesn’t know the difference between a man and a woman, who else might they mistake for Dorner? What if Dorner showed up on the scene of the other killings to try to save the decedents but was too late? Maybe they want to kill Dorner so he won’t tell what really happened to those people. These are questions for a jury, that thing mentioned in the Sixth Amendment.

We do not know if Chris Dorner is crazy, a really bad guy, or as some have claimed, “a hero.” What we do know is that if we believe in America, then it is up to us to make sure that this man has his day in court. I’m an American. Are you? Maybe it’s time we showed the world what it means to be an American.

So join your fellow Americans in calling the LAPD and demanding they bring Dorner in alive and STOP SHOOTING WOMEN and everyone else for that matter.

In closing, I refer everyone to the Samuel L Jackson, Kevin Spacey movie The Negotiator, wherein an honest police officer went rogue to prove his innocence after he had uncovered corruption and been framed. In his manifesto, Chris Dorner makes it clear he also wants to prove his innocence.

Ruth Hull is an activist and writer whose career has included work as a criminal defense attorney, a licensed private investigator, and an educator.

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  • mijj

    doesn’t the constitution give every american the right to oppose tyranny?

  • DesertCommando

    This guy I’ll be executed by the LAPigPD and this will all be forgotten. The sheep in this nation are too busy grazing while these murdering sadistic pigs do what they wish. All pigs culpable in tyranny against the people will deservedly rot in hell. Karma’s a big piggies.

    • G-DAWG

      Especially when we send them there. It has literally come down to US and THEM. LEOs will have their opportunity to pick sides. I hope they choose wisely cause anyone who intends on enforcing unconstitutional directives or whatever will be held to the same account and will be considerd domestic enemy.

      The fix is beyond the ballot box. Semper Fi. III

  • DesertCommando

    This guy will be executed by the LAPigPD and this will all be forgotten. The sheep in this nation are too busy grazing while these murdering sadistic pigs do what they wish. All pigs culpable in tyranny against the people will deservedly rot in hell. Karma’s a bitch piggies.

  • Silverback

    That’s the problem we have in this country. We have the right our Creator gave us to oppose tyranny but we also have bad people who would break any law to satisfy their self need. Until we stand up in mass and demand justice for all things will get a lot worse.

    • Doreen

      Wow you are so right, Silverback. We HAVE to STAND UP and Say NO to this corruption, to Drones, to the Govt in our Lives and Business, JUST SAY HELL NO

      • G-DAWG

        Unfortunately I believe we have passed the point of ‘just say no’. They, the Gov. fed, state, locals have already demonstrated their intent. Next we will have to demonstrate our intent.

      • SKIP

        Doreen, do you own any weapons? If not, GET SOME while you can, you may need them soon.

  • ncjoe

    When you make a claim, back it up with credible, verifiable evidence or you make yourself look stupid. Your claims are not backed up by credible, verifiable evidence, so you just look stupid. But, given that you rarely have credible, verifiable evidence for your claims, you must enjoy looking stupid since you make yourself look stupid quite frequently.

    • SKIP

      Same as you do.

    • Manwhoiswideawake

      The shill is back and you really do suck at it!!!!!!!!!! Get another job troll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Glory

    You guys should read his manifesto, he supports Feinstein AWB and credits clition for being a good polititon, hates on Wayne and the NRA for guns and for not showing sympathy for sandy hook… All in all this guys a loon

    • Burrow Owl

      “…. he supports Feinstein AWB ….”

      Really?

      That statist claptrap is not only jarringly at odds with the rest of the document- it reads like a cut & paste from The Ministry of Homeland Security.

    • vaportrail

      I’ve read his manifesto and he couldn’t possibly be more opposite in what he believes in than what I believe in. I doubt that a lot of the things he claims were done to him happened the way he claims. He is a narcissist, a flaming liberal, an anti-gun nut who also loves guns as long as they are his, and probably has a lot of other mental issues as well. That all being said, he’s a scumbag but I hope he takes out a large number of LAPD before they get him.

  • The Arizona Patriot

    Thank you Daily sheeple for getting this info out there for the people to see. Dorner is a real American, and HE TOOK a STAND. Wish a few million more had his kind of balls then maybe our nation would not be bankrupt and falling. God bless Christopher Dorner and keep him safe.

    • Glory

      Dude really?…Really? Did you read my post, it’s the one right above yours… Yah the one about the manifesto we are all talking about hear, the guys crazy, he supports the very un-American assault weapons ban, hates Wayne LaPierrir and the NRA, hears what he said about it in he’s manifesto-
      “Wayne LaPierre, President of the NRA, you’re a vile and inhumane piece of shit. You never even showed 30 seconds of empathy for the children, teachers, and families of Sandy Hook. You deflected any type of blame/responsibility and directed it toward the influence of movies and the media. You are a failure of a human being. May all of your immediate and distant family die horrific deaths in front of you.”
      … Yep very American…
      Oh and we all remember Benghazi right? Hears what he said about Hillary
      “Hillary Clinton. You’ll make one hell of a president in 2016. Much like your husband, Bill, you will be one of the greatest. Look at Castro in San Antonio as a running mate or possible secretary of state. He’s (good people) and I have faith and confidence in him. Look after Bill. He was always my favorite President. Chelsea grew up to be one hell of an attractive woman. No disrespect to her husband.”
      …WOW… Wait are you a liberal hippie?

      • What is Real

        There are so many versions of his Manifesto circulating the Mainstream News as well as Alternative news that quite possibly no one will ever know for sure which version is the original.

        • G-DAWG

          Roger that.

          • SKIP

            And another ROGER THAT to that roger that. All of this reminds me of the movie “Running Man” with Arnold. Seems just like it in that now that da gubmint controls every form of media they can print, broadcast of say anything they want as the only person that could possibly gainsay them is expected to be killed at any moment. Also, Dorner is said to be a former Marine but his uniform here clearly says Navy and like it or not, they are not the same thing.

  • spencer

    @ whatisreal….thats their plan

  • JenB

    Ruth,

    I suggest you actually read the uncensored version that you claim is the correct one and update your article accordingly.

    You state: “They are clearly put in there by someone with a political agenda, who is using an unfortunate situation to push for legislation. Former LAPD Officer Dorner was concerned about corruption, not politics. ”

    The correct version you link to, does have the reference to wanting an assault weapons ban. Cynthia McKinney linked to the uncensored version on her Facebook post (which you link to and say has the correct version.) I just read it now. Maybe you should read the uncensored version. It clearly discusses the politics on weapons ban. Mentions Good Ole’ Piers Morgan and Obama.

    I read the uncensored version, the one Cynthia links to, last night. It was what Drudge linked to last night. I suppose that maybe earlier in the day Drudge may have linked to the incorrect or fake version, but it was the correct version last night when I read it. It was the exact same website that Cynthia links to.

    As for CNN, I cannot comment on that, as I refuse to go to their site, as they are the proganda arm for Obama and the left. They may very well have edited the manifesto.

    You may want to update your article, as it is incorrect with regards to not having the political agenda.

    • Glory

      Do you have a link to the real manifesto… Does anyone

      • G-DAWG

        Who really knows. Even if we did would it make at matter anyway. It is so easy to fake anything, cept children being killed. :-(

        • Lars Olfen

          Oh my, seriously??

      • SKIP

        YES! the LAPD and DHS and of course, the Obamuslim.

  • oimamused

    It’s time for you to accept the reality that the original IS 22 pages long and the first release was a truncated 11 page version. Now NBC has finally posted all 22 pages. You’re just flat wrong. http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news­/local/Cop-Revenge-Shooter-Nam­ed-Names-in-Manifesto-blamed-A­sians-Hispanics-and-Lesbians-1­90218051.html

    • G-DAWG

      NBC? Thats not too reassuring. Sorry.

      • SKIP

        RIGHT! if NBC can’t be believed just WTF can be LOL (sarcasm off)

  • Kulafarmer

    If the govt keeps up their shit well have a lot of manifesto type reading to do,

  • bigjohn

    Politics aside, shame on any and all of you wishing ill on the sheepdogs of our society. This man is a self absorbed monster that needs to spend the rest of his life in prison. You all preach about media propaganda yet you all buy into the police being evil pigs because of crap you were spoon fed by the media or your pouty because barney gave you a ticket. The men and women in uniform are a sample of our society, most all are good but some will be bad. These people are veterans, parents, sons, daughters, husbands and wives all doing the lords work to protect the flock. For any of you to cowardly hide behind your keyboard and wish ill will on them shame on you.

    • G-DAWG

      @BJ. Very few wishes anyone outright ill will. However it will be seen how many of these sheepdogs turn on the flock. We have a responsibility and right to defend our life, liberty and property. If things go south and I sure hope not, dont think there arent many LEOs who will follow their directives regardless. I think then they have established themselves to be enemies of the general population at large. And frankly there are more of us who dont need to be watched over. I’m not concerned about the hoodlums but the 50 LEOs who come bustin into my home at zero-dark-30, shooting my dawgs, tasing my wife, and pointing loaded, chamberd “assault rifles” at my sleeping children. And me, well he couldn’t be taken alive. OH, Wrong house.

    • Lars Olfen

      bigjohn

      No one said anything about “wishing ill” on the dogs, UNLESS they go in the wrong direction.

    • SKIP

      John, watch the movie “Running Man” to see how this can be played or the movie as mentioned above “Negotiator” As is possible in this case, and all to well suggested in the shooting of the women in the truck, they (LAPD) fully expect the only person able to speak the truth to be killed shortly. Also worked the same in the Robert Redford movie “3 Days of the Condor” a very difficult movie to find now.

    • G-DAWG

      With a bit more thought. What we see on these sites isnt even a fractional sampeling of the sentiments that are present in untold numbers of americas Joe and Jane Sixpack. Nor would I beleive that everyone has just suddenly became aware of the “Imminent Threat” and “Clear and Present Danger” to our Lives, Liberties and property that is being perpetrated from GOV at all levels and to be inforced by whomever will cross that line. We know this because of their actions, their public words and works. From BHO to city councils. When free people are pushed so far, they will respond in kind. ALL of these crazed, senseless assualts on citizens by the kooks (not LEOs)from which these stories originate are NOT citizens responding in kind to Gov. However we do know that some LEOs will cross that line because of their professed support of GOV. positions on issues. Those are the ones we are concerned about. Again, Ruby Ridge and Waco. Which there will be many more to come if we, the awake and aware do not stand together in defiance and arms if need be. I dont like this, nor does anyone else with 1/2 oz. of common sense but have seen, know and remember history. Dont think it cant happen here. I read way more stories of folks that dont get it than about those of us who do. It is the DWTS (dancing with the stars) sheep that gives the GOV and authorities their courage and consent to abuse and oppress or population at large.

      The fix is beyond the ballot box. Semper Fi. III

    • Jean

      John,
      the Sheepdog analogy is over-used and has been a useful tool to blind us to what’s going on.

      They aren’t sheepdogs – they are WOLVES who prey on us. I wish it were otherwise.
      But we were all born to be Wolves, part of the Pack. It’s our own complacency that turns us into sheep, counting on the “sheepdogs” to protect us… Newsflash, Dogs eat MEAT. They don’t much distinguish between pork, beef, or mutton.

      I can’t speak for everyone; I’ve got several stories from close firends and family which show the pigs are lying through their teeth on days ending in “y”. Speeding at 75 MPH… On an entrance ramp? Turned into a Felon because you have a knife in the car, whcih you are transporting? If they push you (ride your bumper and make you speed up) – you’re guilty of speeding, though it could easily be seen as entrapment in a sane society. But it’s all a game: if you fight it, you lose money to a lawyer; if you plea-bargain, you lose money to the state. These people aren’t there to protect YOU; they exist to protect the STATE, which no longer considers us integral parts of said state. We are revenue sources: HUMAN RESOURCES, to be taxed and extorted for as long as we have something to give.

      These “people” are SCUM. Worst in the cities, some not good in the country. Check out Police1, copblock, innocentdown…. Might learn a few things.

  • G-DAWG

    Kinda related. Has any noticed an absence of military recruitment ads. TV, print, radio, billboard. Seems its been a little while. Anyone?

    Semper Fi.

    • Lars Olfen

      I’ve seen plenty of billboards in Montana.

    • G-DAWG

      OK I saw: “Americas Navy, A Global Force for Peace”. during Walking Dead. That aint recruitin, thats Image Manipulation.

    • Bobbi

      Supposedly. Not going to keep the military we already have.

      • SKIP

        Da gubmint isn’t doing anything to retain them, the guys (mostly White) are getting out and going into
        contracting which pays WAYYYYY more than they are getting for mostly the same work and in some cases exactly the same work. Seems the Obanigger can only think of cutting the military to reduce the budget instead of the welfare perks and aid to foreign islamic enemy countries or Al Qaeda in Libya, Egypt and Syria. This isn’t going to end well so a large number of people.

  • akvalmet30

    Hope he kills some more cops.

  • http://T Evie

    If he is driving or has a cell phone, they do not know where he is?

  • Rick45

    This is turned into a hero over night. Stopping LAPD corruption by killing them. Theirs a lot of talk online and people are on his side. Thus its obvious his manifesto is fake and modified. I got some inside sources and it turns out. Their is a strong possibility that the LAPD was going to kill him because he was going to “whistle blow” on them. Hopefully he can take out quite a few more of them before they down him.

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