National Security Whistleblower Interview: NSA Spies on Absolutely Everything, Will Never Stop, Will Only Expand

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Kerry Cassidy’s 2013 2-hour interview of Mark Novitsky:

Statement from Mark (to me via e-mail and published with his permission):

Tragically, I am a National Security whistleblower. With all due respect to crab fishermen, clearly without question, the world’s most dangerous vocation. MANY years ago (years PRE-SNOWDEN), I spoke with 60 Minutes Sr. Exec. Producer Bob Anderson about my former employer and MASSIVE USG contractor, Denver-based Tele Tech Holdings (TTEC) / Tele Tech Government Solutions. TTEC is an international IT/TeleCom/ECRM (Electronic Customer Relations Management) BPO (Business Process Outsourcer). I warned Congress, USG LE, and media that Tele Tech Holdings, a joint commercial (Verizon, Bank of America, United Healthcare, Ford Motor Company, Cisco, HP, Best Buy+++) and USG (DHS, FEMA, FBI, US Census+++), and of TTEC’s incontrovertible relationship not only to DARPA but based upon all available evidence (Congressional, Fed Court, FBI, SEC & public records) was a likely 1981 (Reagan) Executive Order 12333 entity.

I warned that in addition to serial Securities Law Violations and TTEC’s illegal/failed lawsuit directed at me that TTEC was STEALING, dealing, sharing, EXPLOITING assumed private, personal, confidential, proprietary customer information with MULTIPLE (Multi-Nat) 3rd Parties without the “commodity customers’” full understanding, informed knowledge or consent. It’s not a stretch to assume you are somewhere in a TTEC Dbase…. and it’s hard to opt out of something when you don’t know you have opted in! This is obviously FAR beyond any cognizable, reasonable, recognized LEGITIMATE “legal” framework.

I call TTEC the USG (ET AL) META-DATA MEGA MALL. Now we also talked about TTEC’s/DARPA’s involvement with AI/Artificial Intelligence which Stephen Hawking, Bill Gates, Elon Musk all recently described AI as the BIGGEST threat to humanity, a demon, and they wondered why more people weren’t concerned.

SO MUCH (despite the 60 Minutes Thomas Drake story) is still being hidden.

BTW: I was told by Bob Anderson that my story was “too complicated’ for 60 Minutes. This was the media (NYT, WAPO, AP, Bloomberg, etc.) consensus/excuse. “Too complicated” is subject to a broad interpretation. You might also want to ask why this technology was in large part developed to monitor/track global financial transactions and why by all appearances “we” are failing to do so! (HSBC is a UK Bank…not Swiss bank: Standard Poors)

While you were sleeping, the U.S. Congress enacted through the backdoor an “All Seeing Eye” surveillance bill that in large part repealed MUCH of the United States Bill of Rights. At the same time we are told we must fight constant wars overseas to establish democracies, liberty, freedom and provide for them a constitution against a force funded and materially supported by our own “allies.”

Speaking of Constitutions… they can have ours…we aren’t using it.

I believe the iconic George Orwell book 1984 was off by 3 years. I think it should have been called 1981 because that is when the 1981 Reagan Executive Order 12333 quietly and covertly established an ACTUAL BIG BROTHER/Military Industrial Surveillance Complex. And instead of Big Brother…we should really be afraid of our Big Pervy Uncle.

Just a suggestion… but perhaps if you all weren’t so busy and focused spying on US…you might start focusing on the bad guys. WE the people are NOT your most strategic target-rich environment. I offered you all my help on this. Now we have the so-called CISA (they removed the word “protection” associated to previous failed attempts at passage: CISPA – RIP Aaron Swartz) “Cybersecurity Information Sharing Act.” Instead, we should really call it what it is: “Corporate Immunity for Spying on Americans” backdoored into the Christmas omnibus spending bill. And if you had been paying attention, an event in San Bernardino, California seemed perfectly timed and executed to scare politicians and people into thinking (or not thinking) CISA was a good idea. Which, if you consider that and previous events like 9-11 (and here), Aurora Colorado, Fort Hood, Boston Marathon, Sandy Hook and some may say go back as far as Oklahoma City (XO 12333 1981!) went undetected.

Or what about focusing on the biggest data breach in US Government history: the Office of Personal Management Hack, despite the past OPM OIG’s specific warnings regarding inadequate, deficient security systems and protocols or how the TSA missed 90+% of threats when tested. Only in government do you acquire more money and power and less accountability for failing. That is like using the Hindenburg to promote airship travel.

I have documented evidence within Federal Court, Congressional, FBI FOIA-DOJ, SEC FOIA & OIG of being on the receiving end of Illegal, Malicious Domestic Surveillance and Harassment since March of 2002. Despite the documented and long ago warnings of massive and systemic targeting of innocent American citizens being in no way, shape or form associated to terrorism… unless you count being on the receiving end… it is IMPOSSIBLE to seek out help from government officials and the private sector because it is ILLEGAL.

There is a VERY good reason why FBI-National Security Letters (NSL) start with “Under the authority of Executive Order 12333, dated December4, 1981, United States Code (U.S.C.), Section 2709 (as amended, October 26, 2001).”

Can you hear me now?

“It is extremely likely that your personal META-DATA information is within a Tele Tech Holdings database. Tele Tech Holdings/Tele Tech Government Solutions offers integrated customer experience solutions customer monitoring & and consumer behavior analysis within the Financial Services, Healthcare, Communications, Media, & Technology, Government, Retail, Automotive, Travel & Hospitality segments.”

A good whistleblower  never comes only with “problems”…but also with solutions. For now approaching a decade I have fought for the creation of a whole new (1976) Church Commission. In 1976, then U.S. Senator Frank Church (D – Idaho) uncovered the government, FBI, CIA, State Department, Intelligence community involved in thinks like MASSIVE suspect Domestic Surveillance activities (Operation Chaos), covert regime change and assassinations squads, COINTELPRO (Counter Intelligence Programs), Mind Control/MK Ultra and the like that can be easily researched via your preferred internet search. In fact, FISA (Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court) was a direct result of the Church Commission. We NEED a new “Church Commission,” or simply a public interest hearing seated with experts in the arena such as actual Senior NSA analysts William Binney, Thomas Drake and Russell Tice, and those from the public sector such as Mark Klein (ATT) and myself.


“In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.”  – Orwell.

PEACE. Mark J. Novitsky

Note: Mark worked with Karen Hudes for several years. Both of us are unsure who she works for.

Analysis: The rabbit hole goes deep. Mark’s ordeal of harassment, being sued by Teletech with apparent intent to destroy his reputation, and apparent placement on a “no hire” list demonstrate the heroism and peril of whistleblowers in a corrupt US system.

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  • doucyet

    The rabbit hole has no bottom………..and we’re only half way down!

    • RandyJ/ProudSurvivor

      We may not even be half way!