Liberal Media Claims “Alt-Right” Memes Will Take Down Democracy

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Leftists have a new warning for everyone using social media: the memes will take down democracy. One liberal rag is now claiming that the sharing of memes is a bigger weapon than fake news.

As humorous as it is to most, this overt media propaganda is actually working on some. Look at how effective the media was at shifting the blame from Hillary Clinton after the Podesta emails were released. The problem quickly became about the individuals who released the information, rather than the psychos who actually wrote the emails. Even now, the DNC has admitted to rigging the primary election, but that’s being hidden from the public at large to protect the reputation of leftists. But the bigger problem, according to Salon, is the memes.

A Salon write-up warned of the growing threat of alt-right memes, saying they potentially pose a bigger threat to American democracy than “fake news,” said the Daily Caller. And that’s how the article read too. Salon is actually afraid of memes taking the government down. They don’t seem to mind that CNN admitted to being fake news and pushing a false narrative for ratings, they care that President Donald Trump tweeted a gif of himself thumping CNN. The astonishing amount of mental gymnastics used to reach the conclusion that “memes will damage democracy” is palpable. The article is even titled:  Forget Fake News — Alt-Right Memes Could Do More Damage To Democracy.

 

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Interestingly enough, they claim that talk radio, you know, that pesky idea that there’s such a thing as freedom of speech on the radio, was the previous crisis, but now it’s memes.

Just like talk radio before it, growth of alt-right social media is the real crisis behind Trump’s CNN tweet.

If you think it’s funny that Salon is attacking memes, you’d be joining most others. The problem is that their followers actually believe that freedom of speech is somehow a bad thing. Meaning, you can say and meme whatever you want, as long as it agrees with a left leaning agenda. Same with talk radio. You can say anything you want, even if it’s not true.  Just make sure it’s leftist government worshiping propaganda.

Well beyond the problem of fake news, which at least tried to pose as news, these posts are pure opinion, outburst and excess.  There is nothing about these posts that even remotely compares to news reporting — and that’s why they are popular. At a moment in U.S. history where trust in the news is at a record low, we are seeing the growing power of individuals outside of traditional media circuits who have built a following by suggesting that their voices are more authentic and more accurate than those of the so-called liberal, elitist, majority-silencing news. –Salon

It’s almost as if the writer didn’t actually read this before publishing the piece. Salon admits the memes aren’t news but says the fake news is to be defended because it’s trying “to pose as news.” Then they continue to admit that trust in the mainstream media is at an all-time low (it couldn’t possibly be because of propaganda laden false narratives designed to tell a viewer what to think instead of actual journalism though, could it?) so blame those whose brains aren’t as weak, and go outside mainstream media’s mind control tactics for their news.

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What this week’s Trump Twitter war against the mainstream news media teaches us is that CNN should be worried — but not about Trump’s attacks, rather about the fact that an increasing number of U.S. citizens are forming their political ideas based on alt-right rants, and not on anything that even remotely resembles information.

Oh, the horror of US citizens forming their own ideas! It’s like Armageddon!

Is the author referring to the “information” CNN has admitted is fake? It seems like Salon is playing fast and loose with the word “information.” But let’s get at least this straight;  CNN admits that they push fake news for ratings and “witch hunt” Donald Trump because their viewers “want it to be true,” but Salon is concerned with free speech in the form of memes on the internet? Again, this is straight up propaganda, and it’s almost too obvious this time.

The most dangerous threat to Salon’s precious democracy is not memes. It’s free thinkers. It’s individuals who wake up one day to realize the truth: The government is taking their freedom, not brown kids overseas. The police are enforcing the government’s freedom-trampling edicts, not the Middle-Eastern terrorists. And the media is hiding and covering for the government in an attempt to elect the correct king to rule the rest of us so they may earn political favor in the form of tax money stolen from those who disagree.

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  • Mike

    No, what will take down this county is the continued existence of fake, lying, propagandizing left win msm.

    • renee ciccioni

      Don’t forget the made up crap that is intended to insight violence coming from the right .

      • Mike

        most of the made up stuff comes from the left.

        • renee ciccioni

          During the Obama presidency every bombing and shooting was billed as a false flag attack , ” the government is doing this to take away our rights ” the alt right claimed , now that there is someone from the right in power now they are legitimate attacks . Both sides are full of crap and will say anything to get their way.

        • g.johnon

          it comes from the card carrying idiots of both parties.

        • It is obviously bipartisan for anyone with the courage to observe it objectively.

        • the great kazoo

          The violence of the left is real.

      • the great kazoo

        Your tinfoil hat is too tight.

        And, lay off the dogma bluntz.

    • The consistency of socialism across the entire left-right spectrum serves to keep almost everyone on one dole or the other.

      • the great kazoo

        Yep.
        The left/right paradigm is a sham.
        There’s only liberty, and all those other totalitarian scams.

        • The majority of the men who wrote the Constitution were what was called classic liberals. It is now called libertarian, and it resides at the top of the Diamond Chart, as determined by the World’s Smallest Political Quiz, which can be taken at http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz/quiz.php

          • renee ciccioni

            Libertarianism is better described as Ayn Randism because a classical liberal were liberals who believed that the job of government was to protect individual rights and believed in the protection of labor rights ,libertarians are what is a neo liberal a new interpretation beginning around the early 19 th century who believed in smaller government and corporatism and that the governments job was to protect the employer rather than the laborer and that the absent of a living wage created incentive.

          • You must not have ever read Rand about libertarianism, or you’d knew better than to think she was a leftist.

          • renee ciccioni

            Who said she was a leftist ? she was a neoliberal / conservative who in her writings and philosophy promoted selfishness and egotism ,summed up in a well written science fiction piece.

          • Labor has always been a labor canard. She was never on the left-right spectrum anymore than any other objectivist, but she reviled libertarianism. You really should learn more about Ran before you act like you know anything about her that didn’t some from some weenie philosopher.

          • renee ciccioni

            Anyway I know more about her than her writings, and I know what self centered ,selfish person who rallied around the rich and no market is free all markets are controlled by those who created that market so that “free market” will always dictate the will of the those in control of commerce it all sounds great.

  • RandyJ/ProudSurvivor

    The fact is, if the democracy they’ve succeeded turning the nation into can’t withstand memes-it doesn’t deserve to survive.

  • dav1bg

    We are a republic, not a democracy.

    • RandyJ/ProudSurvivor

      Technically, yes-but as long as the overwhelming majority of Americans think only in terms of right/left, liberal/conservative, Republican/Democrat, we will continue to function as a democracy.

      • csbubba

        NOT “Technically” As you will NOT find the word democracy ANYWHERE in the Constitution, Bill of Rights OR the Declaration!
        Also there is LESS than 10000 WORDS in these documents added together!

        • elbustaroyjetspeekerson

          Okaayy. What’s yer Point, Dexter?

          • the great kazoo

            That the constitution makes sense.
            And all those other vague utopian plans do not.

        • RandyJ/ProudSurvivor

          Technically we are a republic is what I was saying.

          • MarkovDeBeeste

            The best way to turn constitutional republic into a democracy is to give the vote to the unqualified. The 26th Amendment that created the 18-year old vote is one example.

          • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

            Giving women the vote is another.

          • g.johnon

            are you forgetting your sarc tags again?

          • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

            Neg.

          • g.johnon

            wow and a flaming male chauvinist as well.

          • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

            Not even close.

            I simply understand the history of my country.

          • g.johnon

            “simply” being the operative term.

          • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

            Yup – nothing complicated about history, if one dares to take steps to learn about it.

          • g.johnon

            yup, just pick up the first history book that you come across and read it until you know everything there is to know about the history of the country.
            simple….and stupid.
            understanding history may, in reality, be one of the most complicated endeavors that a human can set one’s self to.
            sure its simple to go lock stock and barrel in on a narrative. but proving the credence of that narrative (crucial in understanding history) can be a lot like trying to catch a fart on a hot skillet.
            come back when you got something sensible to say.

          • Beyond believing the statist revisionist version taught in the public fool system, that is.

          • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

            Of course.
            I figured that was a given.

          • There are more people here who believe what they were taught in the public fool system than there are that know a semblance of the truth, so assuming a given can be dangerous.

          • What does plumbing have to do with patriotism?

          • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

            It’s not the plumbing, it’s the mental and emotional differences.

            Look how whacked the fuck out “feminists” are and continue to get.
            Where do you think “participation trophies” come from? Women, who will say/do/vote anything that protects their precious loser’s feelings. . .

          • Most of the emotional and mental differences are driven by hormones, and it visually obvious that most lesbians and feminists in general tend to be estrogen dominant. All they need, as demonstrated by endocrinologists all over the world, as progesterone balancing. That is not to say that the same problem doesn’t exist in those of us with external plumbing. Many men are more estrogen dominant than their wives.

          • g.johnon

            true enough today, but back in the 70′ when the 26th was passed, we really didn’t see the millennials coming.
            or are you saying that only rich land owning white males should vote?

          • MarkovDeBeeste

            Try this: if you are on government assistance (welfare, etc.) you lose your right to vote for the duration of such assistance plus six months. That will never happen, of course, because that would nuke the Democrats’ voter base.

          • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

            If your “paycheck” comes from Duh Gutterment, you don’t vote. Only those with skin in the game get to vote.

            If “we” had stuck to the principle that only those with skin in the game get to vote, the entire world would be in better shape.

          • g.johnon

            everybody has skin in the game.

          • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

            Welfare rats and government workers have 0 skin in the game, being takers rather than makers.

          • g.johnon

            wow, its all either black or its white, no colors. what suck ass worrld you live in.

          • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

            What a suck ass world we all live in, thanks to the takers being able to vote themselves more entitlements at the expense of the makers.

            If you buy a new car with your own money – do I get to decide what color, make, and model?
            Or, is it solely your decision?

            You’re buying a house – do I get to decide how many bedrooms, square footage, paint/trim, and location?
            Or, is it solely your decision?

          • g.johnon

            really rev? its that easy for you to tell the makers from the takers? wow and all this time i have been working on the [apparently] false assumption that you had the ability to extrapolate.
            what’s next from you? “my country, love it or leave it”?

          • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

            Not at all.

            It’s easy to tell the makers from the takers – makers don’t get paid with stolen property, which is what the government pays with.

            If you get paid by the government, you’re a taker.

          • Does that include social security retirement recipients, or do you consider them as having (over)paid for what they receive?

          • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

            I consider them as having “overpaid.”

          • g.johnon

            this is a whole new side of you rev. zero to stupid in the blink of an eye. redneck platitudes flowing like the columbia river. the pose of independent thinker vanishing in a veritable pop. just another pin headed right wing dufass trying, fruitlessly, to pull off an air of erudition.
            so, according to your “ideals” china is the maker, everyone else, except yourself, of course, are takers. unless you would care to break it down into the actual virtue of each individual “taker” in terms of value regardless of the “take” or against the take, way freaking easier to just put them all in one lump and call the lump…oh, let’s say “wellfare rats”. and just sweep about a hundred million peeps under the rug because thinking of them as rats makes them s to much easier to despise and ignor, and ultimately to kill. consumers, users, shitters and takers. the riffraff of humanity that is so far below your personal culture. if you ever managed to take a closer look, you may be surprised, if not shocked to find that most are not happy on welfare, they do not live in luxury, far from it. they have to put up with being watched by the government very closely to make sure they don’t sell enough empty bottles to make life a little easier because what they actually labored to attain was taken away in the form of deductions from their next mighty monthly 600 dollar check. (you try living on that for a month, let alone year.
            many are mother who have tried to go to work only to find that they could not make enough to pay for day care, let alone food shelter and dignity. some are veterans, screwed over by the very government they willingly put themselves in harms way to serve. veterans with moderate to severe mental disorders (moderate being liable to react in abstract panic in seeing an empty pepsi can by the side of the road and flashed on iud.) severe being…..well lets just say you wouldnt want one working in the cubicle next to yours. others have simply had the shit beat out of them by decades of physical labor only to find themselves abandoned by labor and industries (another fucking promise gone to hell) to then find out that their pensions have been stolen by multinational banking cartels via contrived economic busts. those and many others like them are the people who make up the welfare rolls. the unwilling to work are but a small percentage, and even those suffer mental disorders. they do not choose to be lazy, they are, by and large, actually clinically lazy.
            so, are just afraid that someone is getting something for “free” that you had to (were able to) put out some effort for? or do you just get off on stomping the necks of the week?
            so go ahead, espouse the ultimate righty absurdity and tell us all that church charity should take care of these folks.
            evidently you was just a neocon bitch all along.

          • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

            Church charity, individual charity, and benevolence societies did a fine job – voluntarily – until the Duh Gutterment got involved with it’s throwing stolen property around like a drunk in a strip club.

            If you’re being supported by stolen property, you don’t get to decide what when and where. You get what you get, sit down and shut up, appreciate the fact that you’re getting anything.

            My first wife worked at the Welfare office – I have a bit more knowledge of how things work than the average person.
            A small number are there for “assistance” – the majority are A. Generational Welfare rats, or B. Criminal Trespassers. Takers, never been makers, all.

          • They’d still be doing fine job voluntarily if FDR hadn’t largely outlawed them from continuing so his new deal could start marking the cards.

          • g.johnon

            if by “marking the cards” you mean marginalizing, by degrees, over half the population, i would agree.

          • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

            I love dealing with smart people. . . it’s so refreshing.

          • Although increasing rare, in my experience.

          • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

            Rare as hens’ teeth, for certain.

          • g.johnon

            disqo boy and the rev: smart people. haaaaaaaahahahaha!!

          • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ
          • g.johnon

            kinda sad that you believe you have a frame of reference for that.

          • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

            Even sadder that you refuse to see it.

          • g.johnon

            yup, 100% neocon bullshit artist.
            i know several people who work for the state dshs been partying with them for decades. i have been studying this shit since the 70’s and i aint no dilettante.. you are, at least, most likely aware of the extreme bizzareness of the office politics, but thats another tale.
            depends on who you ask as to whether church and benevolent charities did a “fine job” but, at any rate, that was way before the overthrow of the fed gov by the bankster cartel that put about a third of america out to the edges. churches and benevolent societies would not be able to sustain enough help to make any difference whatsoever, and to ask them to, would be unconscionable. they would all virtually go broke over night.
            and, of course, you have who are the majority and who are the minority totally ass backwards.
            as for your “criiminal tresspassers” you need to take a close look at how most of these “criminals” got sucked into the “system” in the first place. what are their actual “crimes”? could you be placed among them? what do you thiink? privately owned jails and prisons; what could go wrong with that? and how the fuck did that come to be?
            get a clue. yeah its not as easy as putting down those less fortunate to make yourself feel superior, but its a lot more fulfilling.

          • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

            Less fortunate my ass.

            A welfare-collecting wetback driving an Escalade with 26″ wheels and gold badges is far from “less fortunate.”
            They’re more fortunate – and on my dime, to boot.

            These Criminal Trespassers didn’t get sucked into a fucking thing – they walked into criminality of their own free will.

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7ab4456e03f03a3ee707a025100b5230c26a680edb5262d08a04c21bbbb87f7a.jpg

          • g.johnon

            been hearing similar stories for nearly 50 years. never actually seen it, and none of the case workers i have partied with have either. so, if there is any truth to it, it is a rare thing at best.
            and you do understand the difference between driving and owning…..right?
            using such a shoddy example as the wellfare queen in her cadillac is deceiving at best, fudging data with tall tales and pure laziness from the get go.

          • There would probably be more people with skin in the game, as well.

          • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

            There likely would.

          • g.johnon

            no thanks that’s just the right wing counter to: to each according to need from each according to ability. both idealisms equally retarded. the left is overly charitable while the right is overly petty. or should i say selfish to a fault.
            the problem is not distribution of wealth so much as the effect on the distribution of wealth by taxation and the total horsehit way that money is born into being.
            one of our first priorities should always be to make sure everybody eats. and just because they are starving does not give us the right to take their rights away. we are all in this together and we need to start acting like it.
            if we lived in a truly free society, money would not be a concern.
            i am not a lefty, not a righty and damn sure not a neo-anarchist.
            just a guy who started paying attention about a half century ago and never stopped.

          • That would be fine as long as all welfare, both personal and corporate was applicable. That way the men in the shadows who drive us to war wouldn’t get $600 for any more toilet seats.

          • renee ciccioni

            So who is qualified to vote? ,wealthy people ,only Caucasian males .

          • As it should be, if they are the only ones paying for the government to exist.

          • renee ciccioni

            They do not pay the taxes, they do not build the roads, they do not pick up the garbage, they do not build the homes,they do not farm the land, they do not run their businesses by themselves , the wealthy are attempting to re brainwash us into believing that they are the back bone of society like they did in the past but we are to aware for that, only those who worship personified wealth will fall for them but that’s just not the majority anymore.

          • Did you vote for Donald Trump? If so, would you have done so if he wasn’t rich?

          • renee ciccioni

            No I didn’t because he is a 1 percenter ,his ilk is the problem not the solution ,the greed of those that are behind the collapse of our economy the very people who are behind the corrupt politicians and I didn’t vote for Hillary because she’s backed by the 1 percent . And I remember just last year the so called alternative media was saying the same thing now it seems as though the 1 percent are in control of the so called alternative media because now the alternative media seems to be selling that those without the means to help themselves are the problem not the greedy 1 percent and some how greed has been spun into some selfist cult movement.

          • Would you have voted for him if he was a 3 Percenter?

          • renee ciccioni

            No because of his character and the devisive language he used to speak of other human beings .

          • You don’t know what a 3 Percenter is, do you?

          • renee ciccioni

            Yes I do its a ” patriotic “movement that states it’s against government abuse of the Constitution , and no I would not vote for someone for simply labeling themselves a patriot because I have heard devisive language coming from such individuals who say this group and that group is unamerican and then seeking to use such rhetoric to insight violence and bigotry. I vote based on kindness and compassion for all not just those who look like my idea of an American.

          • So you are okay with a government that treats us and the rest of the world unkindly and incompassionately because you don’t like the fact that they don’t treat our domestic enemies with kindness and compassion? Would you have supported those who signed the Declaration of Independence, since it told King George that he was lowlife bully?

          • renee ciccioni

            Yes I would have but only if it meant independence for all not those deemed worthy of Independence based on skin color or wealth but all and and yes King George or any other bully rather from America or not and that is always a theme with self proclaimed freedom groups that freedom only belongs to what they deem is an American rather it be skin color religion or any other narrow interpretation . As far as the government being and medling in other people’s lives goes as far back as the European invasion of America the Puritan government dictated to the colonies about what to believe and if you didn’t you would ran out of town or labeled for a burning , and so on and so on.

          • Liberty has never been a universal condition for the majority.

          • renee ciccioni

            Now it can be , as long as we take what we have learned from the past and expand on it rather than debate what a bunch dead men meant by liberty and freedom and who they believed it should apply to , knowing what the mind set at that time liberty and freedom was only meant for a narrow margin of people.

          • Those dead men where the last ones to know true liberty instead of being a subject of a overarching government.

          • renee ciccioni

            Thats because they were the over reaching government , that’s the whole problem it’s always , liberty for them control for us and all while quoting a bunch of freedom romantic speek , because back then you were only allowed to take part in government if you were a land owner and of course white and male.So once again freedom and liberty for some not all .

          • So a government composed of the governed is over-reaching when the majority of the governed abdicate from acting as the government?

          • renee ciccioni

            Not all that were being governed had any say in government ,not all only a select few got to govern .

          • What did they “(end) up reenacting” as you posted origianally?

          • renee ciccioni

            Slavery ,government for the wealthy by the wealthy, religious extremism ,, talk of freedom is only talk of freedom if it doesn’t apply to all and no romantic story can change that.

          • We are all slaves now. Most of the signers of the Declaration of Independence died in bankruptcy, so much for government for the wealthy by the wealthy. Perhaps you should read their writings to counterbalance the statist revisionist version of history that you apparently accepted in the public fool system.

          • renee ciccioni

            The did own slaves and actually the public school system paints them exactly as you described them as well as liberal sites who say they lost their fortunes defending the country from the British military I was repeating what I was told on right wing websites such as Alex Jones that they were Masons and engaged in things like the thelfire clubs and other secret society endeavors , then using 1776 when it serves an agenda to insite people.

          • Alex Jones isn’t as right wing as Faux Network.
            Virtually everyone owned slaves, the difference was in how they treated them as disposable or servants.

          • Freedom only applies to those who have freed themselves from the lies that they are free.

          • The only people who should get to vote are taxpayers, like it was in 1789.
            Those who receive money from any government for any reason should be denied access to any ballot that is involved with the government that makes the payment.

          • MarkovDeBeeste

            This isn’t 1789. Social security and Medicare and other programs didn’t exist then. People on Social Security shouldn’t be able to vote? Good luck selling that one. Also, how do you define taxpayers? Everybody pays taxes of some sort.

          • Today’s Americans would have been considered loyalists by the men who wrote the Constitution. There have been multiple coup d’état since that time, which lead to new paradigms never imagined by the founders.

          • the great kazoo

            Yeah. Like illegal aliens.

          • How does age magically transform a moron into a citizen?

          • MarkovDeBeeste

            The same age that magically transforms one into someone who is responsible enough to drink and we all know how well THAT works out. Age isn’t a perfect indicator of maturity but at least it’s a neutral indicator, that is, it doesn’t play favorites according to race, sex, political standing, etc. It is hard to think of any other criteria that wouldn’t be denounced as racist, sexist, homophobic, or whatever.

          • Studying TM 2000-25 and passing the test qualified more enlisted men for voting and responsible citizenship than any age test could. That’s probably why FDR had the TM pulled and destroyed.

          • The unqualified are so because of “the deliberate dumbing down of america” which was initiated to insure that they were so.

          • The problem was that you didn’t say it in the first place.

          • It becomes less faux and more actual with every unconstitutional law passed.

          • RandyJ/ProudSurvivor

            Agreed

        • Republican only appears in one place in the Constitution, Article 4, Section 4, and it talks about a form of government, not a political party that has destroyed that form of government. It also elucidates one of the two legitimate functions of the United States government.

    • Dan

      I usually hear that reminder (everybody already knows this is a republic) from self important elitists that feel the plebes are too dumb to make desisions. The same people that are trying to form a leftist totalitarian government with no freedom of speech. These are the people that will bring in “1984”, not Trump. They are the enemy.

    • Will Porter

      I’ve always found it silly when people say this.

      We’re both. Our government is run by representatives elected by the people, instead of a monarch, so it’s a republic, but any citizen is eligible to become a representative, which is part of what defines a democracy.

      We are not, and never have been, a pure direct democracy, but that doesn’t mean there’s no democratic aspect to our system.

      Mind you, I’m neither a republican nor a democrat, not even in the “small r/d” sense.

      • SP_88

        True, there is a democratic process to our government. But it is technically a Representative Republic. Sometimes when I heard these people talking about our “democracy”, I get the feeling that they have no idea that we are a Republic.

        • Jas

          Even in their own points they admit that we are not a “direct democracy” and just have a “democratic aspect” to it. They had the word democracy pounded into their heads since they were children they think it’s true, it’s hard for them to let go and accept the truth of what you say.

        • It is a Constitutional Republic.
          All republics are representative.

      • My political position isn’t anywhere near the left-right political spectrum. You can find it or yours at http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz/quiz.php

      • Kindly provide a scholarly reference for the premise that universal eligibility for the legislature is a feature of democracy.

    • SP_88

      Thank you. Finally someone noticed.

  • Ratcraft

    I love dank memes, the only thing I love more is making fun of dog owners. They absolutely flip.

    • Jas

      If you want to make someone really flip, post things critical about the vaccine industry and watch them explode!

      • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

        This isn’t Salon – we don’t freak out when people rightly condemn the vaccipoison industry.

        Troll fail.

        • How would one wrongly condemn it?

          • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

            One could not.

  • elbustaroyjetspeekerson

    “…The problem is that their followers ….” What? All FOURTEEN of ’em? Phfffftttt…….We ARE talkin’ ”Shalom” here, roight? Sorry, that’s just wrong. I meant “Squall On”…….

  • Clementine

    It must be hard, being so fragile…

    • elbustaroyjetspeekerson

      “Don’t TOUCH me, I’ll BREAK!!!” “I can’t LISTEN to you!! OWWWW, you’re HURTING ME with your hatespeech!!” “What’s the entry code to my safespace?!?!? I can’t even THINK, you are so mean!!”

      THAT kinda fragile, Clem?
      Good morning, btw….

      • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

        You just literally raped me with your hatespeech.

        • Elaine.Benes, II

          Yeah, and without even any French kissing or lube! Not fair!

  • renee ciccioni

    I don’t think you should be forming anything from the right or the left its all sensationalized and spun to suit one agenda or another.

    • g.johnon

      careful renee, you are getting close to saying our opinions do not matter.

      • renee ciccioni

        No i am not ,what I am saying is that opinions are not facts , many prejudices are based on some ones opinions and if opinions is all you know then you know nothing.

        • All prejudices are based on opinion.
          Facts produce preferences, not prejudices.

  • Will Porter

    God damn, there was a day when Salon actually did some kick ass work. The Iraq War. They used to tear up the MSM as good as any of us, but I guess all it takes is an election or two to ruin it.

  • SP_88

    I keep hearing about this “democracy” all the time. Our military spreads “democracy” throughout the world, we need to defend our “democracy”, “they hate us for our democracy”, etc, etc. But what “democracy” are these idiots talking about?
    We are a Constitutional Representative Republic. We are not a “democracy”. Democracy is basically mob rule, the majority wins, the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, etc. That’s not how it’s supposed to work in America.
    In America, we have rights and freedoms that cannot be voted away by a majority. If only these people were smart enough to know what kind of government we have, perhaps they could hold an intelligent conversation about it. But sadly, these idiots can’t even do that.

    • All republics are representative, but only ours is a constitutional one.

  • Phil_Ossifer

    The left-wing media are in the same position as a drowning man grasping at straws. Their Russia narrative is going nowhere and their impeachment fantasy is not being taken seriously by anyone who matters. Like the abortive Clinton presidential campaign of 2016, the MSM just cannot face the truth that they did it to themselves so they are looking for anything or anybody to blame no matter how ridiculous it makes them look. If you play commodities it’s time to invest in popcorn futures.

    • The right-wing media endorses the killing of straw men for the profit of it.

  • g.johnon

    the headline says: “take down democracy” like its a bad thing.

  • the great kazoo

    What the libtards really hate to see, is everyone laughing at them.

    And what they still can’t see, is that they’ve already lost.

    They’ve reduced themselves to a clown show.