It’s Official: You’re Paying for Trump’s Wall — Twice

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Editor’s Note: No matter what you think about immigration, Trump’s plan to build a wall is shaping up to be an outrageously expensive endeavor that will cost taxpayers billions, will take years to complete, and will likely not even work. There are far more economical ways to curb immigration (removing incentives like welfare and “free stuff” is one), but for some reason Trump is opting for a very expensive and unrealistic method. And, a reminder: Walls are also used to keep people IN.

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by Nick Bernabe

We’re going to build a big, beautiful wall — and Mexico is gonna pay for it,” was one of Donald Trump’s campaign mantras. However, as Americans who don’t have political short-term memory loss will remember, politicians break promises once they’re elected. Such is the case with Trump’s promise to make Mexico pay for his “great” wall.

You’re paying for it, not Mexico, and Trump’s newly released White House budget has made it official.

The Trump budget blueprint, released late Wednesday, calls for taxpayers to fund $4.1 billion through 2018 for Trump’s wall along the southern border of the United States. But that’s just for the initial construction. According to DHS estimates, the overall cost to taxpayers could be $21.6 billion, a figure that will likely be even higher considering the government’s penchant for going over budget and deadlines.

But wait, there’s more. Because Mexico has made it abundantly clear that it will not pay for America’s “great” wall, Trump has floated the idea of slapping a 20 percent tariff on all goods imported from Mexico to make up for the cost. This idea may sound legitimate if you disregard the laws of economics, but the reality is that Americans will wind up paying for the tariffs through higher food and consumer prices. As Anti-Media reported in January:

“Many food products that people living in the U.S. enjoy, like fruits, vegetables, beef, and avocados, could be taxed an extra 20 percent under Trump’s plan. Mexican beer like Corona? 20 percent. Tequila, too. Cars, electronic equipment, machines, engines, pumps, oil, medical and technical equipment, furniture, lighting, signs, plastics, gems, precious metals, coins, iron, and steel products are Mexico’s top exports, which could be taxed 20 percent more.”

In response to the proposed tariffs, Mexico stated it would return tariffs — or border taxes — on U.S. goods going into Mexico, which would hurt American businesses and workers. So basically, you’ll be paying for the wall twice, or possibly three times if you are employed or own a business that relies on exports to Mexico.

At a time when illegal immigration to the U.S. from Mexico has reached a 40-year low, and the supposed economic benefits of the wall are nowhere to be found (though its negative effects are already being felt), many people are likely left wondering if it’s even worth it.

Related Reading: Price of Trump’s Wall Keeps Climbing: DHS Report Estimates Cost of Nearly $22 Billion. Guess Who is Paying For It?

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  • Ernie Engle

    Build the F…king wall, all you cry baby Lib-ra-tards can kiss Trump’s ass. And yes make the Mexicans pay for it or cut all funds returning to Mexico from the illegals back to their families. Vi, Va La Trump.

    • Lewie Paine

      It’s easy for you to say I should be forced to purchase something I want no part of. Grow up and realize your government can’t solve all of your problems.

      • Rich Hillegass

        You paid for stuff you didn’t want with that lousy Obamacare that your idol pushed down your throat!

        • Lewie Paine

          But the Repugs were going to abolish progressive policy. Truth is, most Republicans and so-called Conservatives are fundamentally and ultimately progressive, otherwise, one would expect to see various progressive programs eliminated or drastically scaled back when Republicans or so-called conservatives gain power. This has rarely been the case. In fact, the GOP supports all major Progressive programs – Federal Income tax, Federal Reserve System, the federal welfare state, war on drugs, Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, minimum wage laws, and extensive regulation of business. Republican and so-called conservative officials consistently vote to fund and continue these programs.

          P.S. Not everyone supports progressive ideology – be it left or right. It’s an authoritarian, collectivist ideology. I advocate for individual liberty and voluntary association.

      • huntress

        Ha,ha,ha, you mean like your okenyan who has FORCED you to purchase healthcare. I want no part of my taxes to fund gubmint schools. Why should i be forced to “purchase” that?

        • Lewie Paine

          The US has embraced socialism in the form of Progressivism for the past 100 years. Progressivism has been the dominant ideology in America for so long that it has been absorbed into the subconscious.

          But socialism will destroy America just as it has destroyed every country which experimented with it. History shows collectivism to be a philosophy of failure. Socialism (both right-wing fascism and left-wing communism) has proven to be responsible for a greater number of deaths than any other political ideal.

          As Gary Allen said, “Socialism is not a movement of the downtrodden masses but is a movement created, manipulated and used by power-seeking billionaires in order to gain control over the world …”

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  • JUSTBOBATHOME

    China built a wall centuries ago and I have seen nary a Mexican in China, walls work.

    • Lewie Paine

      That project took over a million slaves and a hundred years.

      US socialists are just trying to protect their welfare trough, while the xenophobes are trying to hide from the big, bad, scary world.

  • horn blower

    Cost of food and other products from Mehico will go up 20% or so–I don’t buy any products from there. Keep the $$ here. If we don’t make it, I don’t need it.

  • cmb

    Mine the fking boarder retards

    • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

      The use of mines is a war crime, retard.

      • cmb

        No fucktard the US uses mines idiot, its a matter of tracking them you illiterate

        • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

          Sorry to have to be the one to burst your ignorant bubble, fuckwit, but the fact of the natter is that the use of landmines constitutes a war crime.

          You might want to learn to look these things up before spewing your bullshit.

          Or, you can keep being a mindless drooling baboon, and continue being called out for it.

          • cmb

            Here ye go fucktard. MINES ARE GOOD!

            http://www.navy.mil/navydata/fact_display.asp?cid=2100&tid=1200&ct=2

            U.S. Navy Mines

            Description
            The mission of the Navy Mining program is develop, procure, maintain and deploy a modern family of sea mines, optimized for potential future military encounters in support of U.S. operations worldwide.

            Background
            A sea (or naval) mine is a self-contained explosive device placed in water to destroy surface ships or submarines. Mines provide a low-cost battle-space shaping and force protection capability. Mines can be used to deny an enemy access to specific areas or channelize the enemy into specific areas. Sea mines have been used by the U.S. Navy since the Revolutionary War. Mines have been used with significant effect in the Civil War and both World Wars. The most effective use of mines by the United States was against the Japanese Empire in World War II. U.S. aircraft laid over 12,000 mines in Japanese shipping routes and harbor approaches, sinking 650 Japanese ships and totally disrupting all of their maritime shipping.

            The Navy has two types of in-service mines, the Quickstrike mine (Marks 62, 63 and 65) and the Submarine Launched Mobile Mine (SLMM) (Mark 67).

            The Quickstrike is a family of shallow water, aircraft laid mines used primarily against surface and subsurface craft. Quickstrike versions Mark 62 and Mark 63 are converted general purpose 500-pound and 1000-pound bombs, respectively. The Mark 65 is a 2,000-pound mine, which utilizes a thin-walled mine case, rather than a bomb body.

            The SLMM was developed as a submarine deployed mine for use in areas inaccessible for other mine deployment techniques or for covert mining of hostile environments, in order to restrict ship and submarine traffic. The SLMM is a shallow water mine, consisting of a modified MK37 torpedo with a mine target detection device.

            The Navy mining program has several active developmental programs for mines and mine components.

            Point Of Contact
            Office of Corporate Communication (SEA 00D)
            Naval Sea Systems Command
            Washington, D.C. 20376

            General Characteristics, Navy Mines
            Primary Function: Anti-ship and anti-submarine weapons.
            Contractor: Multiple
            Date Deployed: The mining program has both in-service and developmental mines

            Last Update: 17 November 2016

  • Uncle Sham

    I’d rather pay for the wall twice than pay for Juanita’s anchor babies

    • Lewie Paine

      If you were paying for the wall, I would agree. But I know you can’t as it’s a multi-billion dollar project. That’s why you want to force me to help.

      • Uncle Sham

        shut up and pay your taxes

        • Lewie Paine

          Exactly. That’s the socialist mantra.

          • Uncle Sham

            the wall is getting built suckah

          • Lewie Paine

            The wall will never be built. It’s logistically impossible. The idea is to create a mechanism to drain taxpayer money into the pockets of the crony corporatists.

            It’s like those no-bid contracts Bush and Cheney gave Halliburton (39.5 billion) back during the Iraq war.

            “Private firms received at least $138 billion of U.S. taxpayer money for government contracts for services that included providing private security, building infrastructure and feeding the troops, according to an analysis by the Financial Times.”

            Now maybe you don’t mind getting fleeced, but I do.

          • Uncle Sham

            one has nothing to do with the other. Bush is not the President

          • Lewie Paine

            The Republicans are back in power with new window-dressing. Old wine in new bottles but some things never change. Crony corporatism is one. The Republican party was formed specifically for the purpose of corporate welfare. It was called the ‘American System’ in 1860.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_System_(economic_plan)

          • Uncle Sham

            what an asinine, sweeping generalization that refuses to acknowledge each senator or representative as an individual with different viewpoints. Furthermore what you said is completely irrelevant to the topic at hand.

          • Lewie Paine

            So you’re an apologist for the establishment. No big deal. Your kind is a dime a dozen here in these comments. Hope you enjoy you wall. The world is cheering you on…

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b91a868d0d0290178f8f96778a08446baad7b34fb5ff002a2067deea68d3a2b8.jpg

          • Uncle Sham

            adios amigo

          • John C Carleton

            As the Feds may run out of money building this wall may have to abandon the project unfinished. I want to start building the wall around Washington DC first so as to make sure it is done. We can add the armed guards on the outside to make sure no one sneaks in, or out.

          • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

            I don’t like being fleeced any more than you do – but, since that’s not going to change any time soon, better to be fleeced for $30Bn once, than $90Bn+ every year.

          • Lewie Paine

            Ah yes, the lesser of two evils argument. You know what that produces.

            As I’m on a fixed budget, for me, the practical implications of this new tax simply means I will eat less Mexican produce.

          • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

            Mexican produce has a much greater chance of beig diseased than domestic produce. In the interest of survival, why would anyone choose Mexican produce over domestic?

          • Lewie Paine
          • John C Carleton

            Maybe then they will be forced to get off the couch and garden or starve. I have lost any sympathy i MIGHT have ever had for sheep. I will try to wake them up, it’s part of my job, but i don’t have to like them.

          • Lou

            4% of illegals work in agriculture; 50% work in services and construction.

            In 1945 with 12 million American men fighting wars SOMEHOW the crops got picked and the toilets cleaned and the trash collected.

            There are NO JOBS Americans will not do. You just have to PAY them and not 5 bucks/hour.

      • Grekko

        It’s revenue neutral. He’s taking $ from EPA, NEA, etc and transferring it to the Wall project.

      • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

        You want to force him to help pay for illegals and their anchor babies – how is that any different?

        • Lewie Paine

          Not at all. He expressed a desire for a wall so generally, if one wants something, one should be prepared to pay for it. I knew he couldn’t afford it so his only option was to force others to help pay for it. That the way socialism works, you know. As an individual I should sacrifice for the greater good. But I’m not a socialist. I don’t recognize the legitimacy of the state so I don’t consider these people, ‘illegal.’ For me, someone who crosses a border to enter into a voluntary agreement to work for someone else is not a criminal.

          • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

            As much as the state is illegitimate, it’s still a fact of life, unfortunately.

            Unless/until that changes, all that you’re advocating is your form of socialism over his.

          • Lewie Paine

            And what form of socialism do I have exactly? If you mean medicare, medicaid, or social security, I use none of those. I have never been subject to minimum wage laws nor have I ever been on the dole. I don’t even use the USPS. What did I miss?

          • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

            You missed the part where you’re forcing him to help pay for the support of tens of millions of people who jumped the fence, for the “greater good?”

          • Lewie Paine

            I think you misunderstood. The entire essence of my position is voluntary association. Sorry if I was less than clear.

      • huntress

        Yes, genius because it’s so much cheaper than paying for benies for mr. Beaner and 15 relatives for life, right?

        • Lewie Paine

          That socialism not working for you? Have you considered abolishing the welfare state and eliminating the incentive? Didn’t think so.

  • Grekko

    Sure, it’s (the Wall) coming out of my taxes and my interest on gov’t borrowing. But at least Trump isn’t asking for more borrowing. He simply reshuffled the administration’s discretionary spending. Some $ goes to the Wall, some $ are cut from EPA, NEA, etc. Revenue neutral. I don’t mind slightly higher prices for if he taxes some imports from Mexico. More Americans will get jobs. It sure beats paying for their welfare checks and SNAP cards. We actually might turn a profit there as well as give those hired a shot at independence from Uncle Sam again. Good deal all around.

    • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

      California spends upward of $20Bn per year to support illegals.
      Slap a 50% tax on remittances, which totals in the neighborhood of $24Bn a year. The wall would be paid for, entirely, in the first year. Every year after would be savings.

      Most – 70 to 90%+ – of the produce sold in the US comes from Cali.

      Do any non-Mexicans even drink Corona?

    • g.johnon

      you can have liberty. you can have taxes. you cannot have liberty and taxes. ever.

  • freefall

    Build up the Police State. Build up the military. Build a wall. It’s pretty obvious that our gov’t is preparing for Martial Law. But the brain-dead Trump worshippers won’t see it until the boot of one of their soldiers is literally upon their necks.

  • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Walls don’t work – look at how many illegal immigrants the Vatican has!

  • g.johnon

    fuck that wall! just give the southern border patrol a suitable budget and untie their hands. treat this for what it is, an mexican invasion. make it clear to the mexican government that this invasion will be taken as an act of war against the usa and that anyone found attempting to sneak into the united states will be subject to the provisions of attackers in time of war.
    i would think that real mexicans would want to stay at home and work on a fix for their own hyper corrupt government.

    • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

      They’re fixing it from here, by sending $24;Bn a year in remittances. I’m sure that all of that money will put an end to the corruption any day now.

    • Glenn Bateman

      About 1/3rd of the illegals in the U.S. entered thru other than the southern border with Mexico. About 20% of those entering via the southern border are from countries south of Mexico. Mexicans account for about 60% of the illegal immigrants in our country. Pretending that the problem is solely a ‘Mexican Invasion’ ignores the bigger picture.

      • g.johnon

        solely? really?

  • archer

    We’re paying for it one way or another, those goods that were mentioned here beside food, were once made here, and there is no reason they can’t be made here again. That is the only way we’ll ever get people off of welfare and back to work, the savings there alone would be enormous if we dismantle a big part of the welfare state.

  • Rich Hillegass

    Let’s get it done! I will even donate some cash to help build it and I doubt very much if I would be alone in that thinking.

  • Kendo

    They said the same thing about Wollman rink… and he finished in record time ahead of schedule. Not to mention Ferry Point. 15 years of delays and millions in cost over runs. Who else could turn a garbage dump into a work of art. Nice view from the Whitestone!

  • freefall

    Once a so-called free society builds a wall surrounding it borders, it is free no more. This is an act of fear-based desperation and just another way to give up our liberties for security. The truth is that we don’t know that the other walls of this prison will end up surrounding us.

  • Lou

    “At a time when illegal immigration to the U.S. from Mexico has reached a 40-year low, and the supposed economic benefits of the wall are …”

    After a 40% drop in illegal border crossings in the first Trump month.we have 1000 illegals, DRUG PACKERS, murders and every other sort of UNKNOWNS A DAY bringing who knows what across our southern border.

    Take a look at Europe; is this what we want in America; the same people bringing CRIMINALS into Europe are destroying the USA.

    We are going into a WORLD DEPRESSION; without a wall we will soon have 10,000 people/day crashing our southern border. This spells massive violence; exactly what Soros and his GLOBALISTS want.

    • Glenn Bateman

      Since the full implementation of the Bush Sr. negotiated and Billy Bob Clinton signed NAFTA, most of the drugs entering the U.S. across the southern border are in Semis and vehicles crossing thru border checkpoints. As much as some would like, we can NOT build walls across those roads and eliminate cross-border traffic.

  • Glenn Bateman

    There is already more than 700 miles of wall on the U.S. – Mexico border. The rest of it is covered by electronic and aerial surveillance.About 2/3rds of illegals enter the U.S. across the southern border. The other 1/3rd comes across the Canadian border, by sea, and thru our airports.

    IF we want to eliminate illegal immigrants entering our country and get almost all of the ones already here to leave, all that is needed is ENFORCE EXISTING LAWS against employing illegals. Some heavy fines for those who employ them and some jail time for those who keep employing them will dry up their employment opportunities. 98%+ of illegals come here for employment and without that they will not come. Without employment, those already here illegally will mostly leave on their own. The illegals still here after a few years of enforcing existing laws against employing illegals will be reduced to a level that catching and deporting them will actually be economically feasible.

    No wall is going to keep people from illegally crossing the border and spending $20 Billion to build more wall is a waste of taxpayer money.

  • Pat Taylor ╚(ಠ_ಠ)=┐

    Ɥɐʞᴉɹǝɯ∀ is after a huge reservation … The tribe to be held captive in this case, the $uɥɐʞᴉɹǝɯ∀, are asking to be caged by their captors, and they are willing to pay for the privilege.

    Does any actually believe that Trump will truly release the financial elites grip upon $ɐʞᴉɹǝɯ∀ throat?

    These guys have been playing this hand for a very long time, they will not give up, manipulation of minds is their forte and their delivery platform … Is the media outlets that they own.

  • huntress

    I don’t care if it’s 5 times higher the price,..
    ..B U I L D T H E W A L L!!!!!! It should have been built 30 years ago for 1/3 of the price!!! You can thank all the previous do nothing presidents for never getting it done. Thank God for PRESIDENT TRUMP!!!!!!