Chattanooga Gunman Yet Another Mass Shooter on Antidepressants: Are You Even Surprised?

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By now most people know the basic facts, at least what are called “facts” as reported by the mainstream media regarding the Tennessee mass shooting.

According to reports, last Thursday twenty-four-year-old Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez opened fire at a Chattanooga army recruiting center, injuring a police officer. Then he opened fire at a navy recruiting center about five miles away, killing four servicemen and wounding another three, one of whom later passed away. All told, five people lost their lives before the Abdulazeez was shot and killed by police.

By now, it shouldn’t surprise anyone much that the media is reporting Abdulazeez was depressed and taking medications for it, medications which he frequently started and stopped.

Antidepressants, such as selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs), come with FDA-mandated black box warnings on the labels to inform users, “about increased risks of suicidal thinking and behavior, known as suicidality, in young adults ages 18 to 24 during initial treatment.”

According to the FDA:

“Pooled analyses of short-term placebo-controlled trials of antidepressant drugs (SSRIs and others) showed that these drugs increase the risk of suicidal thinking and behavior (suicidality) in children, adolescents, and young adults (ages 18-24) with major depressive disorder (MDD) and other psychiatric disorders.”

Not that ages are an exact predictor here, but Abdulazeez was 24.

A black box warning is the most serious one the FDA can place on a prescription medication bar none. What they don’t tell you is that these drugs don’t just cause suicidal feelings, but homicidal ones as well.

Now consider America takes more psychotropic medications like antidepressants than any other country on the planet by far. More than 30 million Americans are on these medications right now. It’s an astonishing situation if you really think about it.

Even people who aren’t purposefully taking antidepressants may be “taking” them.

In the last decade, the Associated Press conducted a five-month investigation and found the drinking water of at least 46 million Americans in 24 major metropolitan areas was indeed tainted with pharmaceuticals. Wastewater treatment does not remove these drugs, and people are drinking them, cooking with them, and bathing in them. The report advises, “The federal government does not regulate prescription drugs in the water.” So just consider how many pharmaceuticals people who knowingly take prescription medications and swallow them down with regular city tap water are actually ingesting in this country.

Worse, however, is the known fact that nearly every highly publicized mass shooting in recent American history involves a shooter on (or very recently going off) one or more of these medications at the time of the shooting. In fact, nearly every mass shooting in the last two decades involves psychiatric medications. Prior to the late 1980s when Prozac first came on the market, mass shootings were not anywhere near as common as they are today.

The Washington Post just reported, “Abdulazeez had been in and out of treatment for his depression and frequently stopped taking his medication, despite his parents’ pleas for him to continue, said a person close to the family.”

Frequently started and stopped taking medicines with FDA black box warnings that disrupt levels of chemicals in the brain to cause suicidal (and obviously homicidal) thoughts?

Considering the history of American mass shooters in recent years, that would do it.

In fact, any time a mass shooting hits the news these days, the first thing people ask isn’t why he or she did it but whether or not the killer was on antidepressant medications.

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  • Mike

    Not surprised at all. Muslim + antidepressants = government planned attack.

    • Reverend Draco

      White guy + antidepressants = what, then?

      Dylan Roof gets a pass because he’s white?

      Interesting thing – Both shooters had a common element – BOTH on psych meds!

      Imagine (if you possess sufficient brain power) what you might do with an education.
      Imagining is the best it’s ever gonna get – fuckwit like you is ineducable.

      Drowning is fun I hear – you might wanna look into it.

      • Mike

        Was this article about roof? No, it was not so screw yourself on that one bud.

        • Reverend Draco

          Piss off, fuckwit.

          This article was about how damn near EVERY mass shooting in the US since – EVER – has had a common element – psych meds.

          Ignoring that in favor of your pig-ignorant blather about muslims. . .

          Just – go fuck yourself in the neck with something rusty, you brainless fucking piece of shit.

          • Mike

            poor little boy got all butt hurt. How about take your own advice.

          • Reverend Draco

            Simple, fuckwit.

            Ignorance is not a point of view.

          • Mike

            Then you have no point of view because everything you say is ignorant.

          • ccambridge

            You are about as nasty and intolerant as the radical Muslim extremists. People are allowed to express their feelings on this board. Take the pole out of your arse and apologize to Mike

          • Reverend Draco

            Fuck off, shitstain.

        • Maddog

          Mike, Would you argue with a turd floating in the toilet? That’s what arguing with Rev is like.

          • http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/political_reading_room/ disqus_3BrONUAJno

            Sounds like you are floating nearby.

          • Reverend Draco

            Projecting again, I see. . .

            Don’t take meds for your illness – you might end up front page news. . . but do seek help immediately.

        • http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/political_reading_room/ disqus_3BrONUAJno

          Where did it say anything about islam, as you did?

    • http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/political_reading_room/ disqus_3BrONUAJno

      The muslim part is not the least bit necessary, according to the package insert for not only antidepressants, but the majority of pharmaceuticals.

  • http://www.shitsenders.com Я0llyJ0g3r

    Can we get a “no more taking away gun rights after shootings” bill?

    • http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/political_reading_room/ disqus_3BrONUAJno

      It would be better to have a mandatory pharmaceutical drug test and evidentiary finding after every violent crime suspect’s arrest.

      • http://www.shitsenders.com Я0llyJ0g3r

        That won’t stop them from stripping gun rights, it needs to be explicit stated. If it is not which I believe it will not be then it’s not a question of if we lose all of our rights to defend ourselves it’s a matter of when.

        • http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/political_reading_room/ disqus_3BrONUAJno

          The only certain way to secure ones rights, regardless of any law, is the explicit exercise of them, in disregard of any law that prohibits it.

    • arahn

      That would stop most of these shootings.

      • Fallout2man

        Yes, because having armed police on campus was sooo successful at stopping Columbine! ;p

        • arahn

          that was in reference to the many shootings being staged (i.e. sandy hook, Charleston, etc etc) being staged for the purpose of pushing a gun control agenda. A bit of ironic humor but If they had a “no more taking away gun rights after shootings bill” then there wouldn’t be an incentive to stage such theatrics to push a gun control (only they have the guns) agenda.
          OK. Have fun!

          • Fallout2man

            Oh my! Oh my! Call George Takei! ;D

            The shootings at Charleston, Sandy Hook, and Aurora were staged, to push gun control? How do you know? Because if they didn’t keep trying to take away our guns afterwards there would be no shootings?

            What impressive logic my good sir! You have defeated my eebil lib’rul conspiracy with your sound, circular reasoning. I am smote. ;D

          • arahn

            Where’s the graphics for every post? I don’t see the point of going around and around with you if I don’t get to laugh at one of your graphics.

          • Fallout2man

            You didn’t notice that this board was not configured to allow image uploads? And I thought you were smart. ;p

          • arahn

            I don’t keep track of such things. I actually have a lot of work to do so I do this in spare moments — one of the reasons my responses are short and not documented for you.

            Thanks for thinking I was smart. I was but for most of my life I used the medical industrial complex which devastated me. Only recently got improvements after ditching it. That you promote the mind and body destroying chemicals of medical industrial/ pharma et al. is why I said you must be a sociopath. I’m glad that was cleared-up but I hope you find a way to manage your self-declared suicidal tendencies.

          • Fallout2man

            Oh, you can’t be bothered to keep track of whether or not what you say makes any empirical sense? Yet you apparently believe you are eminently more qualified to judge the truth inherent in something? I guess becuz: Sky Fairy dust? ;p

            Oh, my! Apparently I’m promoting pharmaceutical drugs as a panacea to all of life’s ills just because I am highly skeptical of religion and don’t buy wholesale into pseudoscientific woo like Homeopathy?

            So, that must mean you’re a neoconservative Republican who believes in police militarization, the drug war, capital punishment, fundamentalist Christian religious indoctrination in schools and government policy, The Patriot Act and the war on terror, Christian Sharia Law, torture as a valid method of gaining actionable intelligence, a border wall made of 200 feet tall solid concrete walls with electrified barbed wire on top, a moat with crocodiles at the bottom, and automated sentry turrets because you criticized by lib’rul beliefs!

            Because as we all know boys and girls! There are only two possible sides to a conflict, and they always are made up of members who believe in exactly all of the same things! Nuance? Third parties? Choice? Details? All lib’rul lies! ;D

            I hope you continue to manage your self-declared health and safety by abandoning modern medicine entirely. I hope you have fun treating broken bones with essential oils and not casts. ;p

          • arahn

            I don’t have time to keep at this but here’s a rebuttal:
            I am very read-up on these matters but don’t have time to link them all for you — but you should be able to research it.

            You think I’m a neocon conservative republicrat? Laughing MY Ass Off!

            OK you’re boring me now. bye

          • Fallout2man

            LOL! Oh, you have lots of evidence, you just don’t want to present it? You just want to leave me to my own devices when by your own estimations I am critically ignorant? How do you expect me to find good sources or come to the right conclusion if I am apparently so ignorant of truth that I believe all of these other things?

            It seems your understanding of my posts could be broadened a bit by understanding these helpful concepts:

            http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/satire
            http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Dunning-Kruger_effect

            Not that I expect you to read them yourself. But maybe someone in the audience will, and that’s all that matters to me. 😉

          • arahn

            You didn’t know those were staged or managed events!? And I thought your were smart.

        • http://privacy.com MARCUS

          actually the school resource officer you’re referring to made quite a difference, delaying one of the cowards while he engaged him. Given that every 20-25 seconds on average a life is lost during an active murder incident, even a 3 minute engagement would have saved 9 lives, not to mention bought 3 minutes for the police to arrive. Besides that, that was in 2000 when response protocols were substantially different in regards to active murderers. Had he been trained in and followed todays protocols, he would have pursued and engaged the cowards. Your reference is dated, misunderstood, and irrelevant.

          • Fallout2man

            Let’s bring up some more recent, relevant cases then.

            Virginia Tech had a police department and Ft. Hood was a military base. Nor did a gun spare Sean Collier, the MIT police officer killed by Boston bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev. Then there’s also the story of Jeffrey Johnson.

            http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/25/justice/new-york-empire-state-shooting/

            In the ensuing gun battle with police where they tried to subdue him nine innocent bystanders were hit. I think these situations illustrate that simply adding more guns and having more shootouts is not necessarily the answer. Really I think that when it comes to gun issues we, as a nation, need to just dispense with the utter bull and ask the completely honest, critical, constitutional question without any attempt at wishy-washy bias.

            What is more important to our society? Lowering the rate of homicide and gun crime, lowering the rate of gun suicide and accidental death, or upholding an unlimited right to private firearms ownership?

            If you consider the response of Australia, after it instituted its gun control it had no further national tragedies. So we really have to ask ourselves, is the arbitrary right to own our guns more important than the practical concerns of gun proliferation?

            I’m not even saying we should ban all guns either, that’s a common misconception about people who talk about gun control. I’m simply saying that we need to do our scientific diligence with research and determine when and where gun ownership makes sense and allow gun ownership in those situations.

            Personally I would think those in rural areas or hunters have ample reason to own weapons. I question however the notion that we should allow urban or suburban citizens to amass an arsenal of their own. It’s really interesting too, as time has passed, gun ownership has actually gone down. Fewer people own guns, it’s just that now the few that do are buying more and more guns.

            I don’t know if you or anyone else will make this argument, but I’m just give a short rebuttal just in case. For those that think we need guns to resist tyranny, I want you to consider to consider the severe imbalance of technology, training and force the government possesses. If it were to truly go rogue, then your futile attempts at resistance would resemble the government of New Mecca fighting off the Necromongers at the start of The Chronicles of Riddick. You have no sane reason to expect you would ever be able to amount to more than a mere nuisance, so stop with the fantasies of becoming the next Stallone, Schwarzenegger, Van Damme, or Lundgren. This is not an 80s movie and you are not Chuck Norris.

          • http://privacy.com MARCUS

            (Please pardon the multiple replies, I’m over the character limit)
            Virginia Tech had a police department and Ft. Hood was a military base. Both were also “gun frere zones”, limiting the number of firearms per person. By your argument, these should be the safest places. Yet they were not, primarily because each of the criminal cowards in those shootings knew this and were able to plan and execute their crimes around that.

            Sean Collier- no one is claiming a gun creates a magic bulletproof forcefield. Jeffrey Johnson- there is no substitute for training, and the NYPD failed dramatically in theirs. Blame the gun or blame the department culture and policy? Your call there. I also believe the NYPD behaved like a bunch of trigger happy loons due to the “active shooter” (sic) callout, something that immediately tools up cops to shoot first and arrest later.

            “What is more important to our society..(etc)..” And there you have it: the false choice where you paint a causal relationship between constitutional rights and gun ownership with crime, violence and suicide.. Usually the opening argument by the anti-rights groups, and boilerplate throughout their talking points. I’ll address in the order you presented: “Lowering the rate of homicide and gun crime” Though the number of firearms owned by private citizens has been increasing, steadily since 1970, the overall rate of homicides and suicides has not risen. (FBI Uniform Crime Statistics, 1972 to 1995, CDC WISQARS,
            BATF Firearms Commerce Report, 2002) “lowering the rate of gun suicide” Debatable on two fronts: first, those truly suicidal will find a way to kill themselves regardless of available means. second, despite increasing firearms sales, suicides have decreased. “accidental death” Training, safety, and familiarity will easily decrease what is already a low number of accidental deaths

          • http://privacy.com MARCUS

            I will not consider your statistics from the Violence Policy center as they are (intentionally) skewed and misleading. The VPC is a paid mouthpiece for anti-rights groups, particular the Joyce Foundation who funded over 6.6 million dollars on research specific to the control of firearms in 2005. The statistics themselves do not take into consideration the number of times crime was DETERRED by the presence or display of a firearm, it simply tally’s justifiable cases of self defense where a gun was fired (and some of their studies, the actually classified self defense shootings as homicides, but I digress..).
            For example, The average number of times per year an American used a firearm to deter a home invasion around 498,000 (Estimating intruder-related firearm retrievals in U.S. households, 1994. Robin M. Ikeda , Violence and Victims, Winter 1997) Of the 2,500,000 times citizens use guns to defend themselves, 92% merely brandish their gun or fire a warning shot to scare off their attackers.(Targeting Guns, Kleck, from the National Self-Defense Survey, 1995).
            I’m glad you mentioned Australia by the way. It gives me the chance to point out that since their sweeping ban on private gun ownership,• Firearm-related murders were up 19%, Armed robberies were up 69%, Home invasions were up 21%. In the 15 years previous to the ban, firearm-related homicides dropped nearly 66% and Firearm-related deaths fell 50% (Gun Laws and Sudden Death: Did the Australian Firearms Legislation of 1996 Make a Difference?, Dr. Jeanine Baker and Dr. Samara McPhedran, British Journal of Criminology, November 2006. and Austrian firearms: data require cautious approach, S. McPhedran, S. McPhedran, and J. Baker, The British Journal of Psychiatry, 2007). I’d be happy to dig for numbers on the UK, Japan, etc as well.
            Banning firearms has a negative effect on reducing violent crime. We need to consider other options for criminals rather than a revolving prison door, or fines) Your disregard of a basic human right as “arbitrary”, and telling me what would make you “feel alot happier” is very telling. Your rights are not arbitrary and your emotions are irrelevant to a logical discussion. Your point on banning guns for certain areas or regions (urban areas etc) is frankly horrifying. Whom decides who gets to have a right of adequate self defense? You? Me? Have you considered urban areas may be where additional protection may be required simply due to population density? Would it surprise you to find that handgun ownership among groups normally associated with higher violent crime (young males, blacks, low income, inner city, etc.) is at or below national averages and has been since 1997? Even better, would it surprise you to know the first gun laws were aimed directly at this population and have been since, primarily to keep them in line?
            I’m not sure what exactly to make of your last point (guns cant resist tyranny), particularly since most of your supporting arguments are science fiction and 1980’s action movie references. The fact that most of your experience with firearms and their ownership comes straight out of works of fiction says a lot about your anti-rights points above. As far as your point about tyranny, I’d much rather keep my guns in the unlikely event they would be needed than give them up because I’m told an enemy may have technological superiority. The concept of asymmetric warfare is an effective, and potent one, and besides… Why add to the power gap?? makes no sense.
            I will add one final point: Millions of privately owned firearms in America would give any potential abusive national power a reason to rethink how they would conquer such a land, and if their mere existence gives pause to those who would push a tyrannical government on its people, I fully and completely support it.

            There are deep and fundamental reasons behind violence that must be addressed, and those issues aren’t about magazine size or caliber. Without addressing those, you are wasting your time.

      • http://www.shitsenders.com Я0llyJ0g3r

        You’re right it would I didn’t even think about it from that angle.

  • Bo Wetstone

    it’s the typical smoke and mirrors game THIS government uses. same rap when the secret service chased down and shot to pieces a black women who made a wrong turn- she was not taking her meds! that’s why the was murdered-it’s not the governments fault.
    same with this jihadist- nothing to worry about when it comes to muslims murdering americans- their religion tells them to kill all infidels but in this case blame eli lilly.
    this government can be read as easily as a comic strip
    and the oreo promised transparency

    • http://privacy.com MARCUS

      seriously!

  • Bo Wetstone

    the government is collecting guns from social security recipients because their s.s. benefits and medicare are going to be reduced AGAIN- and many will be s.o.l.
    and after all at 76 with cancer and medicare refuses to pay for treatment- nothing to loose

    • http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/political_reading_room/ disqus_3BrONUAJno

      I hope they are ready to get the bullets first if they take away the SS recipients’ reasons for living.

      • Bo Wetstone

        old white guys are the ones getting jacked up at gas stations the most often- go figure why they will have to surrender their protection. what a legacy the oreo has made for himself

        • http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/political_reading_room/ disqus_3BrONUAJno

          It is difficult to determine the meaning in what you write because of difficulty in parsing. What kind of protection are you talking about?

          • Bo Wetstone

            seniors with disabilities loosing their right to own firearms.

          • http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/political_reading_room/ disqus_3BrONUAJno

            Have they been exercising their rights?

  • http://privacy.com MARCUS

    Muslim émigré shoots up army and navy facilities and we’re going to blame… antidepressants..? what is this, an administration press release??
    By the way, its not “mass shooter” its “muslim extremist terrorist”.

    • Reverend Draco

      Wakey wakey, fuckwit.

      He was on psych meds – to was Roof – are you saying that Dylan Roof is a “muslim extremist terrorist?”

      “Worse, however, is the known fact that nearly every highly publicized mass shooting in recent American history involves a shooter on (or very recently going off) one or more of these medications at the time of the shooting. In fact, nearly every mass shooting in the last two decades involves psychiatric medications. Prior to the late 1980s when Prozac first came on the market, mass shootings were not anywhere near as
      common as they are today.”

      Maybe you should learn to read, you fucking slackjaw.

      • http://privacy.com MARCUS

        I read just fine, thanks. The above article isn’t about Roof, its about Abdulazeez. Are your debate skills limited to hostility and name calling or do you have something factual that refutes anything I said? Preferably something you can articulate?

        • Reverend Draco

          It’s about mass shooters on antidepressants, slackjaw – not about muslims. . . your pig-ignorant blather aside.

          Reading is FUNdamental – you should learn.

          Don’t like the way I treat braindead fuckwits? Don’t be one. Easy peasy.

          • http://privacy.com MARCUS

            I don’t care how you treat people as that reflects more on you than it does anyone else. I guess then your answer is “no” to both my questions.. Never said the article was “about Muslims” I’m making the point that there’s probably a more obvious reason for the shooting. Take Dylan Roof for example. I have an easier time buying the idea that he shot a room full of black people because he’s a racist who wanted to kill a roomful of black people than because he was under the influence of an antidepressant.

          • Reverend Draco

            I see. . . so the Common Element is actually irrelevant and a non-issue? Random characteristics which have no relationship to one another are the actual cause?

            Your ignorance grows with each nonsensical post you make – quit before you get further behind, slackjaw.

          • http://privacy.com MARCUS

            no, I’m saying you are focusing on one common element and drawing a conclusion to the exclusion of everything else. Post hoc ergo propter hoc. To that end I ask (if you are going to compare Roof and this shooter) that you consider hatred or cultural violence as a much more motivating “common element”.

          • Reverend Draco

            Keep digging, slackjaw.

          • http://privacy.com MARCUS

            witty comeback. still awaiting facts or logical riposte. Assuming the will not be forthcoming so I guess we end here. be safe out there.

          • Reverend Draco

            I’m sorry. . . you intentionally fail to comprehend facts or logic. . . and then expect someone to waste additional facts and logic on your retardation?

            In your mentally-deficient dreams, fuckwit.

          • http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/political_reading_room/ disqus_3BrONUAJno

            Why do you have to say the article was about muslims when you said the subject was one?

          • http://privacy.com MARCUS

            see above.

          • John

            The Antidepressant drugs cause them to go insane. How can you not blame the Drug Companies & their products.

            Its in their own literature where it drives .005 percent of the population taking them to go insane.(Want to Kill People & Do Violence)

          • http://privacy.com MARCUS

            I didn’t say not to blame the drug companies, nor did I disagree with a 500th of one percent of the users being affected in such a way. I’m simply amazed no one will (apparently) consider the much more probable scenario.

        • http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/political_reading_room/ disqus_3BrONUAJno

          Again, where does it say he was a Muslim?

          • http://privacy.com MARCUS

            10 seconds of google will give you…

            https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/chattanooga-shooter-came-from-middle-class-muslim-family/2015/07/16/815c39c2-2c04-11e5-bd33-395c05608059_story.html

            and if you’re not into media, theres also the matter of his various texts or social media posts like “Whoever shows enmity to a friend of mine, then I have declared war against him.” (Hadith 38)

          • http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/political_reading_room/ disqus_3BrONUAJno

            So, if I quote biblical baloney, I’m a Christian? That saying is just their way of saying ‘the enemy of my friend is my friend’, which is frequently quoted by politicos, so they must be Muslims as well?

          • http://privacy.com MARCUS

            clicky linky. also, if you quote “biblical baloney” via twitter then go shoot up a mosque, I’d put a safe bet on you being a Christian extremist. If you post a quote from Mao and go shoot up an election center, or a quote from Stalin and go shoot up wall street etc etc…

          • http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/political_reading_room/ disqus_3BrONUAJno

            I don’t believe in any deity, nor do I worship at the alter of Twitter.

        • Bo Wetstone

          well–if it is so disturbing to read a post off the subject-flag it

          • http://privacy.com MARCUS

            why not have an actual discussion instead?

        • SRVES339

          Non Muslims commit the vast majority of multiple victim shootings, so you’re just displaying your bigotry.

          You do know that your country has killed hundreds of thousands of innocent Muslims in the ME in your name… don’t you?

          Any opinions on that?

          • http://privacy.com MARCUS

            actually, I don’t know that there’s any definitive statistics on what religion commits any percentage of mass shootings in the US. There is however, a disconnect when people assume a correlation of a possibility while ignoring a probability.
            Any no one is killing people in MY name in the middle east any more than they are doing it in YOURS. talk to the warmongering neocons and resource expansionists in the US government about that.

          • SRVES339

            Put that comment in the wrong slot Marcus (apologies) but…
            Wasn’t speaking of religion, but since most Americans confuse ethnicity with religion I took the liberty (to re-phrase, whites commit far more mass murders than Arabs or Persians).
            Your tax dollars are being used to fund those killings… mine are not. And, America has been invading, bullying, and funding coups around the world to enable corporate rape and pillage since long before you were born… you own it my friend, but enjoy your “disconnected” fantasies.
            Oh and the “meds” thing is all about white supremacy… black shooters are “thugs,” brown (Muslim) shooters are “terrorists,” and white shooters are poor unfortunate victims of Big Pharma… lol (suspect you may agree with me on that one)!

          • http://privacy.com MARCUS

            you don’t know me, bud. Take it at face value what I said: Any no one is killing people in MY name in the middle east (or anywhere else) any more than they are doing it in YOURS. That includes my “tax dollars” (again, you assume much). as far as the “white supremacy” fantasy, you apparently missed all of my points above about looking for the most probable reason behind violence rather than simply the “possible”

      • Bo Wetstone

        when roof was 16 he was beaten half to death and gang raped by 4 blacks guys- kind if a chip on his shoulder aye?

        • Reverend Draco

          Entirely possible.

          Doesn’t change the fact that the vast majority of mass shooters were either fucked up on psych meds or going through withdrawals.

      • lisaherg

        I’ll choose to ignore your profane language, but your point about the connection between mass shootings and psychiatric drugs (aka mental health “treatment”) is right on target, and closer to the truth than any of the other distracting explanations.

    • http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/political_reading_room/ disqus_3BrONUAJno

      Where does it say he was a Muslim?

    • Bo Wetstone

      of course- the oreo takes no blame–only credit–his legacy will be by design 100% positive
      actually he was overheard when a staffer told him of the shooting- he asked “were they all white”? the staffer said “I think they were” and the oreo said “good”

  • Jon Geissinger

    Root cause: GREED. Starts with the doctor (quack) that prescribed the meds without going in-depth on WHY the individual needs the drug; just throw the person a script and send them home, charge the insurance company for the visit; cheap and easy money for a quack that should be shoveling horse manure instead of practicing medicine.
    SECOND problem (part of the greed) is the drug is on the market to begin with.
    More than 80% of the American public is taking an SSRI. LESS than 20% of the rest of the world is taking them.
    According to my doctor, these are short term use drugs; BUT BigPharma has made these drugs HIGHLY addictive; VERY hard to come off them! They know good and well that these drugs are the root of the problem, NOT a cure or even a short term help. The FDA has been bought off for this (as well as everything else they are supposed to be regulating).
    GREED!

    • http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/political_reading_room/ disqus_3BrONUAJno

      The only problem with that premise is that the doctors are frequently as ignorant about the drugs they prescribe as those they prescribe them for.

  • James Wood

    I’m thirsty, what should I do? Feeling depressed too.

    • http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/political_reading_room/ disqus_3BrONUAJno

      Take care of the thirst with Silk Hat, and you’ll be too drunk to be depressed anymore.

  • SovereignPatriot88

    So this turd shoots up a recruitment center and kills 5 people. His brain was mush and he was probably going to commit suicide. Once somebody decides to end their life, they no longer give a shit about whether or not they will be punished for their actions. So it becomes a free for all. He could end his life quietly in his room and die as an unknown nobody or he could go out and get his 15 minutes of fame. He opted for the latter. So now he has to decide what his “legacy” will be. He decided to follow his beliefs. And what were his beliefs? Islam. How does one get Islamic beliefs? They read the koran. And what does the koran say? It says to be a deceitful, sneaky, cowardly terrorist.
    So what have we learned today?
    Islamic extremist beliefs = hating Americans
    Antidepressants = killing people you hate and then yourself

    • http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/political_reading_room/ disqus_3BrONUAJno

      How do you surmise that his brain was mush, unless you personally know more about a brain being mush than you are letting on?

    • Bo Wetstone

      no it was jihad. obumgler is carrying out his form of jihad on America- azeezabob his

  • ccambridge

    I thought Muslims don’t suffer from mental illness.

  • laymans terms

    b.s. prince abubu muhammed ali derka derka was a devout muslim doing what devout Muslims cell operators do nowadays.. living a life as a lie and appearing to be one of us..until the magic day comes to carry out jihad. and what better time then the end of Ramadan. . muslims dont need to be depressed to shoot up military targets. they jsut need american targets. this was planned and orchestrated to military targets. doesn’t take a genius to figure this one out. this aint a mass shooting or as king muslim osama would call it “work place violence”. this was a terrorist attack with planned targets.. plain and simple. every straw argument has been made to this point to not call it what it is. instead..weed,guns ,american western culture and drugs have all been the latest excuses to cover for radical islamic idealism and agression.. all so the liberal left can protect a protected class from looking offensive to the “sheeple” living under the liberal eye.

  • SRVES339

    Yup, SSRIs clearly kill people.

    But wait, I thought “people killed people,” so now I’m a little confused.

    Oh, and is America the only country in the world (well I know it is to some non critical thinking Americans but I digress) that prescribes SSRIs?

    No, they’re sold around the world…

    So, if it’s not “people” and it’s not “SSRIs” then what could be causing all these multiple victim gun murders in America?

    Damned if I know… Oh wait, isn’t America the only developed country in the world with for profit healthcare?

    Wow, you’re right, that must be it, brilliant!

    You’re welcome…

    • Reverend Draco

      Your logic train derailed.

  • ramrodd

    Stop with this backdoor gun confiscation game – this murderer was a JIHADIS…please have the sense to call it what it is!!

    Mental health is the avenue to gun control..
    It was used to confiscate guns in Eastern Europe prior to WWII..

    American Psychiatric Asso: Half of Americans are mentally
    ill..
    After crafting by politicians and Media all will be crazy
    except for them..

    300 million prescriptions for psychiatric drugs were
    written in 2009 alone..
    Your children on medication for ADHD?
    Single woman with children diagnosed with depression?

    Be careful what you ask for…….

  • Bo Wetstone

    good lord people- can’t you see the smoke and mirros game the government is playing? it’s not jihadists- it’s a mental disorder-soooo-
    take guns away from everyone who ever took antidepressants- and with the medical information available for each and every citizen- it’s a click away to take away