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California Passes Sweeping Gun Control: $50 Ammo Permit Fee, No Detachable Magazines or Mags over 10 rounds

Rob Richardson
Off Grid Survival
June 1st, 2013
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handgunThe State of California has once again gone off the deep end, and has approved a whole range of new gun control bills that will make it even harder on law abiding citizens to own a gun in California.

The California Senate approved a package of bills this week that goes directly after law-abiding gun owners. The bills make the state’s already draconian gun laws even more ridiculous, by outlawing detachable and large-capacity magazines (which they define as anything over 10 rounds), tracking anyone who buys ammunition and reporting orders over 3,000 rounds, imposing large fees for those who do buy ammo, and expanding the category of offenders prohibited from owning guns for 10 years.

One of the most controversial bills will require the State’s residents to submit personal information and a $50 fee anytime they want to purchase ammunition. The State will then determine whether the buyer will be allowed to purchase the ammunition, which means  depending on how the background checks come back, the same day purchase of ammunition in California may be a thing of the past.

The California Senate also OK’d a bill that will outlaw the sale, purchase and manufacture of semiautomatic rifles that can accommodate detachable magazines. It also requires that anyone who currently owns one of these weapons, immediately register it with the State.

Guilty until Proven Innocent

This is nothing more than targeting and criminalizing law-abiding gun owners. In no way do any of these laws make it harder for a criminal to acquire ammunition, since most do so through illegal channels to begin with.

All these bills will do, is send criminals over the California border, ensuring a larger black market of guns and ammunition to stream into California.

Attorney General Approves Mandated Bullet Stamping That Will Effectively Ban All New Guns

Earlier this week, California Attorney General Kamala Harris officially certified a law that will require all new semiautomatic handguns to use technology that stamps identifying information on bullet casings. Since gun manufacturers are not likely to spend money retrofitting their entire production lines, California has effectively banned the sale of all new guns.

Here are the provisions that have been approved by the California State Senate.

  • The state Department of Justice must notify local law enforcement agencies when a person purchases more than 3,000 rounds of ammunition.
  • SB 47 by Sen. Leland Yee, D-San Francisco, bans so-called “bullet buttons” that are used to get around current laws banning detachable magazines.
  • SB 53 by Sen. Kevin de León, D-Los Angeles, to create new state permits that require background checks for buyers of ammunition. Buyers will also have to submit to a $50 permit fee to buy Ammo.
  • An additional 10 percent tax on all ammunition sold in California
  • SB 374 by Steinberg, D-Sacramento, to ban detachable magazines in rifles. (Yep, even a Ruger 10/22 will be considered an illegal assault weapon)
  • SB 396 by Sen. Loni Hancock, D-Berkeley, to prohibit possession of magazines that hold more than 10 rounds of ammunition.
  • SB 567 by Sen. Hannah-Beth Jackson, D-Santa Barbara, to change the definition of certain kinds of shotguns to make them assault weapons, thus making them illegal in California.
  • SB 683 by Sen. Marty Block, D-San Diego, to require all gun buyers to take a firearm safety class and earn a safety certificate.
  • SB 755 by Sen. Lois Wolk, D-Davis, to increase the number of crimes – including offenses related to drug addiction,  alcoholism and others – that result in a 10-year ban on being allowed to own a gun.

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  • Tom Thatcher

    California is where the Fema Camps will be filled first, and the depopulation will start.. The one good thing is that the Libtards will be put down with the rest… I moved from that Commie concentration camp a few years ago.. We can all have warning when the Shit will hit the fan, just watch California… NAZI LAND USA..

  • theDragon

    Thank God I don’t live in the peoples republic of California. Hard to believe another state has sunken lower than New York. Vote with your feet people, leave California before it is too late.

    • Randy

      I moved here 10 years back from Mi. and I`m moving back to Mi. next year,these people are insane here with their Socialist bullshit Agendas

    • cranky steve

      I am leaving as soon as economically possible to one of the remaining free states. California is a socialist sewer and going to get much worse. It is too late to save California, bail while and when you can. Save yourself.

  • wormdirt

    Nothing to deter crime. Only laws to punish law abiders. Typical leftist trademark.

    • Jess

      Leftists? Or communists?

      • Paul

        Leftists. At least true communists are technically anti government. CA is a joke

  • Human

    From what I hear they let violent criminals out of jail early due to a broke budget and overcrowing so certainly the only thing this law will effect are the honest as the criminals certainly won’t care.

  • Smarty

    It’s nice that this article gives us a comprehensive list of traitors, all spelled out and ready to go! Make a copy so they can be dealt with later!

  • C

    States laws are not saposed to contradict the
    Constitution. That document says that t”he right to bear arms shall not be infringed”. Setting up barriers against purchasing bullets is an infringement.

    • AD

      It is an egregious infringement, and should not be tolerated by any Cali resident who gives a damn about his rights as a citizen.

      If I were a cali resident (again, hahaahahahahahahaha) I would be LIVID.

  • jay

    So what am I gonna get a letter in the mail now to reregister my at-15…I’m interested to see the timeline, application and enforcement of these laws. Also the penalties.

  • RickE.

    The criminals will simply steal their ammo! Not rocket science, huh brothers and sisters.
    I lived in California for 34 years, I’m glad I moved off the grid in northern Arizona.
    I miss the variety of scenery, my kids and grandkids, but I don’t miss the HORRIBLE liberal laws there!

    • AZ Tekmen

      Thanks for coming to my home state, we need more patriots in AZ to help us with the liberal Nazis who’ve infested our State Govt.

  • MonkeyWashDonkeyRinse

    Gun Control is not about guns its about control, I do give a flying f–ck about libtards who live in CA and vote in the control freaks they vote in. The will get what they deserve eventually. say great, lets encourage all the Statists to move to CA ( and states like it), it will increase the likelihood that that Statist canner doesn’t spread so fast to the freedom loving parts of the USSA.

    • Anonymous

      wow luv you feeling of united we stand not you huh.

  • Uzziel

    Why aren’t Californians shooting, yet?

    • AD

      because they are all p*ssies that actually think increased gun laws will make a damn difference…that criminals intent on killing will think twice because it’s suddenly illegal to have a detachable mag. This, coming from the same IDIOT who (A)thought hunting humans was legal and (B)thinks rampaging murderers will stop shooting people if “we all put down our guns” because “that’s human nature”

      I can’t possibly roll my eyes hard enough.

  • Daniel Beck

    I live in California and read the alternative news daily….this is the first I’ve heard of any of this!!! I haven’t even heard this being discussed.

    • Ozomahtli

      Same here! Didn’t get notice from anyone regarding this going to vote? we need to get this overturned. it’s not about guns at all, it’s about the State collecting more revenue $$ supporting all the deadbeats.

    • Ozomahtli

      Pure and simple this is WRONG! it’s about collecting more revenue for this state.

  • Mark McBee

    I live in California and I say fuck this state. It is nothing but bankrupt, high tax and welfare state.

    • http://SteveQuayle Wild Bill

      RULE OF LAW

      “A state may not impose a charge for the enjoyment of a right granted by the federal constitution. The power to impose a license tax on the exercise of these freedoms is indeed as potent as the power of censorship which this Court has repeatedly struck down a person cannot be compelled ‘to purchase, through a license fee or a license tax, the privilege freely granted by the Constitution.’ ” ~~ MURDOCK V. PENNSYLVANIA 319 US 105 (1942)

      Unconstitutional Official Acts
      16 Am Jur 2d, Sec 177 late 2d, Sec 256:
      The general misconception is that any statute passed by legislators bearing the appearance of law constitutes the law of the land. The U.S. Constitution is the supreme law of the land, and any statute, to be valid, must be In agreement. It is impossible for both the Constitution and a law violating it to be valid; one must prevail. This is succinctly stated as follows:
      The General rule is that an unconstitutional statute, though having the form and name of law is in reality no law, but is wholly void, and ineffective for any purpose; since unconstitutionality dates from the time of it’s enactment and not merely from the date of the decision so branding it. An unconstitutional law, in legal contemplation, is as inoperative as if it had never been passed. Such a statute leaves the question that it purports to settle just as it would be had the statute not been enacted.
      Since an unconstitutional law is void, the general principles follow that it imposes no duties, confers no rights, creates no office, bestows no power or authority on anyone, affords no protection, and justifies no acts performed under it…..
      A void act cannot be legally consistent with a valid one. An unconstitutional law cannot operate to supersede any existing valid law. Indeed, insofar as a statute runs counter to the fundamental law of the lend, it is superseded thereby.
      No one Is bound to obey an unconstitutional law and no courts are bound to enforce it.
      Jon Roland:
      Strictly speaking, an unconstitutional statute is not a “law”, and should not be called a “law”, even if it is sustained by a court, for a finding that a statute or other official act is constitutional does not make it so, or confer any authority to anyone to enforce it.
      All citizens and legal residents of the United States, by their presence on the territory of the United States, are subject to the militia duty, the duty of the social compact that creates the society, which requires that each, alone and in concert with others, not only obey the Constitution and constitutional official acts, but help enforce them, if necessary, at the risk of one’s life.
      Any unconstitutional act of an official will at least be a violation of the oath of that official to execute the duties of his office, and therefore grounds for his removal from office. No official immunity or privileges of rank or position survive the commission of unlawful acts. If it violates the rights of individuals, it is also likely to be a crime, and the militia duty obligates anyone aware of such a violation to investigate it, gather evidence for a prosecution, make an arrest, and if necessary, seek an indictment from a grand jury, and if one is obtained, prosecute the offender in a court of law.

  • AD

    Jeeez I’m glad I don’t live in that sh1t hole. Home of little prissy diane feinstein. Ah well, I guess some states gotta suck up to that piece of sh1t sitting in the white house.

    Sorry I don’t have much else better to say. I guess the 2nd amendment, or our Constitution in general, mean nothing to California elected officials.

    Why don’t all the morons that want increased gun laws migrate their happy asses to Cali, that way they can be all “safe” from the bad ugly guns?

    What a joke.

  • AD

    So if I were a Cali resident (hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha) and I wanted to go target shooting, I have to pay a $50 fee just to buy ammo? And pass a background check to buy it? What a festering crock of horse sh1t. We need to excise this tumor from our country before it spreads. Surgically remove BHO from office, toss eric pen1s holder and hitlery in FEDERAL POUND ME IN THE ASS PRISON for LIFE, evict frankenfeinstein and her goons from office, and let our nation heal.

  • Chingon de Durango

    California! The land of fornicators, the modern Sodomites, Commie liberals and newly retards coming from south taking advantage of your sweet welfare checks. I bet they are smarter than you.

  • http://www.ruger.com/micros/advocacy/takeAction.html john

    every CA gun owner needs to call and email their reps opposing these laws.

    • Tim

      Unfortunately That doesn’t work anymore. Tried it with Feinstein and all I got back was “I’m right you’re wrong. I don’t have as much firearms experience and knowledge as you do but I am smarter than you on the subject.” Classic commie BS.

  • Andy

    More leftist socialist laws in the SDRC,new name for California,Socialist Democratic Republic of California.The communists playground,and Colorado is going that way too.The states on the east coast have been that way for a long time,there are good people in those states but their State Senators and Representatives do not listen to the people,they have their own agenda,to enslave the populace.Keep your powder dry.

    • BRAINS

      10 rounds wont stop a zombie outbreak……California is fucked!

  • http://SteveQuayle Wild Bill

    Here are some good legal webs for you.. Good to save.

    Edwin Vieira, Jr. — A Primer on “Martial Law”

    http://www.newswithviews.com/Vieira/edwin198

    http://www.Teamlaw.org <<< A good legal web.

    Sui Juris – Brief In Support Of Notice For Dismissal For Lack Of Jurisdiction

    http://www.barefootsworld.net/sui_juris/right_to_travel.htm <<<< A lot of legal info on this web.

    What Happens When GUN CONFISCATION Is Forced On People By Their Government – gps1952 – YouTube

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMoz-EfZZ34 <<<<THIS IS A MUST WATCH.

  • http://modernmilitiamovement.com shane

    attention all caifornia patriots! there are 3 standing state militia groups: norcal, cencal and socal. the tie for talk is over. join! get trained, get prepared. they are disarming us! leaving us open to criminals! its time to stand! go to modernmilitiamovement.com

  • Peter

    Why don’t you bother to read the legislation before you post inaccuracies, you even provide a link to it. SB 53 does not require a BUYERS to get a permit to buy ammo, it requires SELLERS to get a permit to sell ammo. There is NO FEE to buy ammo. When you post untruths all you do is weaken you overall position. The legislation is not hard to read, so just take the time and read it.

    • Anonymous

      Article 4. Ammunition Purchase Permits

      30370. (a) (1) Commencing on June 1, 2014, any person who is a
      resident of this state and who is 18 years of age or older may apply
      to the department for an ammunition purchase permit, in a format to
      be prescribed by the department.
      (2) The ammunition purchase permit shall entitle the permitholder
      to purchase or otherwise acquire ownership of ammunition from an
      ammunition vendor as that term is defined in Section 16663 and shall
      have no other force or effect.
      (b) The department shall issue an ammunition purchase permit to
      the applicant if all of the following conditions are met:
      (1) The applicant is 18 years of age or older.
      (2) The applicant is not prohibited from acquiring or possessing
      ammunition by the laws of this state.
      (3) The applicant pays the fees set forth in subdivision (i).

  • http://facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000634985165 George Vreeland Hill

    With the latest shootings in Santa Monica, we must once again turn our attention to the issue of guns in society and the right to bear arms.
    Gun violence has been a hot topic for many, many years.
    The arguments both for and against gun ownership are as many as the number of guns themselves.
    However, one thing is clear.
    Shootings are now common occurrences and the fear that a child will be shot and/or killed at school seems to be a greater concern to parents than terrorism.
    What happened at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut was a reminder that guns and people do not mix.
    The massacre at Columbine High School was a wake up call, but we seemed to go back to sleep.
    The shootings at schools and campuses have Americans wondering if their community and kids will be next.
    This is a trend that has to stop.
    The NRA has often said that “Guns don’t kill people. People kill people.”
    That is bull.
    The truth is that people use guns to kill other people and they have done so in record numbers.
    Society is out of control when it comes to violence and guns are a major part of the problem.
    The NRA and their faithful gun loving followers have never had an answer to the problem except to remind the rest of us of their rights as gun owners.
    They and the NRA always use the Second Amendment to the Constitution of the United States Bill of Rights as proof of their “right” to bear arms.
    In fact, it was written in the 1700s to protect colonists from other colonists, Indians and to form a militia in case the British invaded their farms or land.
    The Second Amendment is clearly outdated and assault weapons and other weapons used to kill have no place in society.
    Such guns are only used to kill people.
    We the majority of the citizens of this country have had enough of gun violence and the deaths of so many innocent people including children because of guns.
    If the NRA and others won’t help in solving the problem, we the people will solve it for them.
    Enough is enough.

    George Vreeland Hill

    • carmelli

      Mr. Hill: Your threat, be it physical, emotional, rational or imbecile, whether it be for intimidation or harassment is just that: a Threat. The NRA – which is me – is not empowered the solve the problem of violence in our culture. They’re not a lawmaker but they’re an easy target for people like you. WE THE PEOPLE continue to be Constitutionalists, honoring the rights of all unlike you, who respect only the rights that you feel are important. You, Mr. Hill, are not God. Do you best, and supports of the 2nd Amendment will do theirs as we will not be bullied or intimidated any longer.

    • Tracy Stansman

      Will Mr hill whip out his pocket knife in a firefight and hope for the best? That’s his logic.

      He does not understand that a well arm citizenry will protect the good people it.

    • Matt madden

      take guns away i could easily pick up a rock and nail a guy in the head with it which could be fatal wanna ban rocks? if you dont like guns thats your problem dont tell me i cant own a gun because then i will kill you. why because by taking away my firearms you are taking away my ability to protect my wife and my kids and any threat against them will be staring down the barrel of my ” Assault rifle” guns are designed to kill yes but this is not a utopia there are people out there who want what other people bust there ass for and will kill to get it i wont be outgunned sorry buddy MOLON LABE

    • Anonymous

      idiot

    • Greg

      Mr. Hill-

      Although the United States Constitution gives you the right to Freedom of Speech, it also give us firearms aficionados the right to Keep and Bear Arms. While your opinion may be a valid one for liberals, insitution of your policies, no matter what you say OR DO, will not stop gun violence. The NRA is correct in stating that “guns don’t kill people, people kill people”. Prove to me that a loaded weapon is capable of killing ANYTHING when it is left untended by any living creature, and I will bow before your reasoning. Failing that, as a physician, I diagnose your condition as “cranial rectosis”.

  • Ken

    What about those who reload? Do they report themselves or just pay themselves a check for $50?

  • Matt madden

    That is why i live in arizona i can carry a handgun open or concealed without any permits what so ever and no restrictions on semi auto rifles or ammo

  • john

    This sucks they think they are smart they are just scared little monkey afraid of what they can’t control… all of us

  • Robert

    I live in Ca it’s the bayarea and lalaland that voted blue,the rest of the state is red.most people in Ca are self centered and don’t know what’s going on,I will not hunt in Ca or Colorado,I will hunt in the pro gun states and also buy my ammo and supplies in those states

  • george

    I sent an e-mail to Nancy pilossi that I was against any form of gun control and the e-mail I got back said “thanks for your support of common sense gun control laws”. They don’t even listen to what we say!!!

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