A Figure of Trayvon Martin, Bleeding, Replaces Baby Jesus In California Nativity Scene

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A nativity scene in Claremont that replaces the infant Jesus with a sculpture of Trayvon Martin is seen in this split photo from Dec. 2013.(KABC Photo)

A nativity scene in Claremont, California shows a figure of a bleeding Trayvon Martin instead of the baby Jesus. The scene is on display outside the Claremont United Methodist Church.

John Zachary, the artist behind the sculpture said:

“What we tried to do is make it a new way of looking at the Nativity and connecting the Nativity story with a contemporary issue.” (source)

“He was, in my view, an innocent child like the innocent children killed by King Herod,” Zachary, 57, said of Martin. “I think the Nativity has to be relevant to our time. I think Jesus is a symbol of hope, and I think he has to be seen in today’s context.” (source)

Many people have objected to the scene, which will be in place until January 5th. The Reverend of the United Methodist Church, Dan Lewis said:

“The depiction here is uncomfortable, and that’s kind of the point.”

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  • unclezip

    Nobody cares. The criminal is dead; let’s move on.

    • tunkashila

      What do you mean? Zimmerman is alive and scot-free. You have an interesting definition of the word “criminal”…

      • Ezra Pound

        So was Zimmerman supposed to allow himself to be killed by Tayvon? I genuinely want to know what you think Zimmerman should have done when he was being bludgeoned to death on the sidewalk. And if Zimmerman was out to kill Trayvon, why didn’t he just shoot him outright? Why did he allow himself to be repeatedly assaulted before resorting to deadly force? Thanks in advance for your civil response.

        • tunkashila

          No, Mr. Zimmerman was supposed to stay in his vehicle and wait for police to act on the report he called in like they told him to, not get out and begin asserting what passed for authority on someone he hadn’t witnessed committing a crime. In my view, he wound up on the sidewalk due to the course of action he chose to take. This is not to say that Mr. Martin was not without culpability if he attacked Zimmerman when confronted, but had no confrontation taken place to begin with, the incident would not have occurred.

          • Ezra Pound

            But Zimmerman DIDN’T confront Trayvon. Zimmerman was at most merely waling behind Trayvon, that is not a crime. Are you saying that non-minority people should not be allowed to occupy the same sidewalk as minorities? and if they do the minority has a right to attack the person? Zimmerman didn’t attempt to assert ANY kind of “authority” he was just standing on the sidewalk. It was Trayvon Martin who confronted Zimmerman, not the other way around. You are just hiding your hatred for “white” people behind excuses. You dislike and/or hate white people and you will confect any kind of “argument” you need to justify if. “Zimmerman was standing on Martin’s sidewalk, therefore Zimmerman deserved to get attacked and had no right to defend himself.” That is the gist of your argument. If majority Americans really knew that people like you were in our country, they would see to it that you were expelled. And I don’t care if your ancestors were Natives either because in their history, they murdered and expelled the people THEY stole the land from too. In any event, if real Americans knew people like you existed, they wouldn’t tolerate your presence here.

          • tunkashila

            Oh, so Zimmerman never got out of the truck to follow Martin in the first place? If he did, then that’s confrontational, no matter who’s doing it, which underscores my point that he should have stayed in his truck like he was told to by the police. And you’re the only one who’s mentioned people’s color, so the only one concocting (have no idea what “confecting” is) arguments. Is that a trait of “real Americans” or just particular your take on the breed? You wouldn’t know a real American until one burned the flag you worship.

          • Ezra Pound

            Re: “color” – color is THE issue in the Tayvon case because if Martin had been white or if Zimmerman had been black, no one would know anything about this case and no one would care, certainly not you. Second, Zimmerman “getting out of the truck” is totally immaterial because it is not a crime nor a “confrontation” to walk behind someone on the sidewalk. Zimmerman had every right to “follow” Martin because…THIS IS AMERICA! “Confect: verb
            literary
            gerund or present participle: confecting
            1.
            make (something) by putting together various elements.
            “together they had confected a valiseful of show tunes.” Again, this is America and the language we speak is English, including the word “confect” and its progressive forms.

          • tunkashila

            Thank you for the English lesson. Now, on to your contention(s)…

            I never said it was a crime for Zimmerman to get out and follow Martin. But doing so certainly enabled one to follow, didn’t it? Just because you have a right to do something doesn’t mean you should exercise it. Also, we only have the survivor’s word, which is undoubtedly self-serving, as to who escalated what as there were no other direct eyewitnesses. My point is simply that a smart person would have stayed in their vehicle and not created the possibility of a response or an escalation. That is one of the first lessons of Gun Safety 101.

            Which leads me to another point: Color was not why I made my comment, but it’s obviously THE issue to you. More’s the pity; you are as racially-obsessed as any Black Panther or La Raza member and it taints everything you say, even when you have a legitimate point, irregardless of your impressive command of English. If all you can do with it is bleat about race, who cares what else your philosophical kiddie pool might contain?

          • Ezra Pound

            I’m really not race-obsessed. I just see race as THE issue with the Martin-Zimmerman controversy. And at this point, no good will come from ruminating about it. I’m sure you and I probably have a lot in common behind it all. If anything I said gave offense, I apologize. It is an emotional issue.

  • Ezra Pound

    Are there no good Christians in California who will destroy this filthy monument to minority anti-white, anti-Christian racism?

    • tunkashila

      Are there no good humans to destroy the filthy monuments to anti-black racism across the South? As long as statues of Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson exist there, free speech remains a two-way street.

      • Mr. Jonz

        You really believe the Civil War was about slavery and that Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson’s main concern was being anti-black? The Negros were never that important.

        • tunkashila

          Certainly not to those who thought they owned them. If you’d read my earlier posts, you’d know I don’t think the civil war was mainly about slavery. But if you think it wasn’t a factor, you’re willfully ignorant.

        • Jo Natha Cooper

          Really Negros were never that important… almost laughable… African slaves were actually WAY more valuable and expensive than white ones… JS

  • Drdetroitdanchap

    When you have no TALENT you have to be “shocking”. Send this twit and the “preacher” to the city so they can play “KNOCKOUT”

  • Drdetroitdanchap

    The “Civil war” was about TAXATION and onerous policies of the industrial North against the South. Any complaints about slavery should be directed to the Heirs of the Owners of the slave ships and the dealers who engaged in it. Also your Black “BROTHERS” back in Africa who SOLD YOU to the Slavers. NOT to the 99% who had nothing to do with it.
    By the way “YOU ARE WELCOME” for us freeing you.

    • tunkashila

      Slavery was the wedge issue used to justify the North’s economic tyranny against the South….but it was indeed an issue. Hitler’s economic arguments made sense, too, but his genocide against anybody who stood against him negated any points he might have made. The American South will forever wear the same sort of albatross.

    • Jo Natha Cooper

      And who sold your ancestors?

  • woody188

    Jesus vs. Trayvon Martin

    Jesus
    -without sin
    -persecuted for his beliefs
    -killed by the authorities

    Trayvon
    -violent drug offender
    -suspended from school for lying and fighting
    -killed while committing a felony crime against another

    I don’t see any similarities.

    • Jo Natha Cooper

      and also still a kid (Trayvon)… able to make mistakes and do childish things like smoke weed and fight… GZ was a already a criminal offender records for having assaulted police …threw a woman across a bar and had multiple anger issues and was sentenced to anger management… He has had many run ins with the law and constinues to do so as an adult whereas Trayvon getting killed will not able to grow up and get a chance to change into being a responsible adult.

  • hp b

    More ripened fruit from LBJ’s (not so) Great Society tree.

  • Salty

    I dont have any guilt. I never owned any slaves. Black or white.

  • tunkashila

    And you’re really too close to all those damned trees to see the forest, aren’t you? I don’t want those statues torn down any more than I want the mural in the article painted over. My point was about censorship itself; it’s too bad you’re living up to the redneck stereotype of having nothing resembling an education or a sense of irony. And FWIW, I would have been quite satisfied with some jail time for Zimmerman-save your hyperbole for someone like yourself dumb enough to believe it.

  • tunkashila

    Which of course exonerates everybody else for the practice, right? There’s still hamlets in the world where they screw children (mostly Utah and the Vatican, it’s true, but they exist) but it doesn’t mean pedophiles outside those places aren’t to blame.

    • LexiconD1

      There are STILL slaves in Africa, right this second.

      STILL captured by other Africans for Africans. If you’re so worried about this issue, why do you do nothing about it STILL going on today?

      Aren’t YOU to blame?

      • tunkashila

        Are you high or just obtuse? When I wrote “everybody else”, the obvious implication was everybody else…who engaged in the practice of slavery or pedophilia. Since neither I nor my ancestors did so (in either case), nor am I African nor live in Africa, one can only wonder what your point might be.

        • LexiconD1

          Oh, so you’re just making excuses why you don’t want to help your fellow brethren out, huh. How many posters before hand said their family or most United States citizens had nothing to do with the slave trade, how many on other websites said the same too?

          I see they way you are, you’re full of excuse and none of the hard work. Pretty much says all anyone needs to know about you.

          • tunkashila

            LOL You assume I’m a slave with no idea of my ancestry-enjoy your assumptions as they’re all you’ll ever have to comfort you. You also assume that you know where I live and what the usual sexual practices of the area are; you should stop dialing phone psychics.

            One of us has command of facts, the other of assumptions. Time has shown which foundation is the stronger-go fling yours at the strawmen you build for your arguments as you’ll have far more success.

          • LexiconD1

            This is the ignorant one (if you aren’t the same poster. Which would not surprise me, at all.).

            You failed to comprehend a single point in my post.

            You are not worth spending a single second ever posting back to, so I wont bother to read, much less reply, to anything you ever write again.

          • Jo Natha Cooper

            You are just ignorant… these crimes happen in EVERY community. Obviously a victim of failing to educate yourself. Reying on what you are taught in public school is your first mistake.

          • LexiconD1

            I’m ‘ignorant’, do you see the grammar and spelling errors in your post? If your going to call someone ‘ignorant’, you ought to try not showing the world yours.
            Not to mention the content.

          • Jo Natha Cooper

            Yeah I do see the grammatical errors in my post I’m using a phone you moron…you got the point though didn’t you? Obviously misspelling has side tracked you… don’t forget to breathe

          • LexiconD1

            Again, because this can’t be stressed enough…YOU are an IDIOT.

            Got it now? IDIOT.

  • tunkashila

    Deplore it if you will but I see you remain unable to refute it.

  • tunkashila

    I definitely agree that the PC component of this country is bullshit and racism is generally overblown on both sides of the debate. But since you seem to get most of your exercise by jumping to conclusions (i.e. thinking I want works of art destroyed because of the politics behind them) I decided to join you and illustrate your ignorance by using your own tactics. What’s good for the goose is sauce for the gander, right?

    I may well be an asshole but even an asshole is capable of seeing more shades than black and white. Do I think GZ should have gone down for murder? 2nd degree, yes, and exactly because he should have stayed in his vehicle, as you admit. BTW, I lived in LA during the ’92 riots and they did not happen in a vacuum-they were the result of a combination of decades of police abuse of the community mixed with impunity for the abusers. Were the rioters stupid? Absolutely-they should have surrounded every police station for a 200 mile radius and held anything with a badge hostage until a ransom of the abusive cops who walked free were brought to them for street justice as it was obvious none was forthcoming from the courts, not repeated Watts and the Reuben Salazar riots by burning down their neighborhoods. But that’s me; I’m an asshole who wants to see other, real assholes punished when the court system drops the ball; the collateral damage to innocents is brutal in the alternative.

    As for assholes like yourself who lack the the desire to hold others accountable for their actions, karma will catch up eventually. As it always does. The scales will always balance, which is why we should work for that balance within the court-the mob is a rough necessity when justice fails.

  • Jo Natha Cooper

    White ppl were slavers too… Don’t forget that. They just were not as valued. Black ppl also owned white slaves… Blacks also enslaved whites they were ALSO sold.

    • LexiconD1

      Google the name Anthony Johnson, maybe then you might have to take your head from between your butt cheeks and take a big whiff of reality.

      • Jo Natha Cooper

        Who cares. Ever thought of that? Stay on the topic. You are like a flea brain but in real life…Lmao.

        • LexiconD1

          One word describes you to a tee…IDIOT!

  • Jo Natha Cooper

    Propaganda on FOX? is that why he has been arrested and detained for waving around another gun and trying to bully someone else? Zimmerman is not anywhere closse to being an innocent he is a bully… that carries a gun… Had he no gun he would not have even followed Trayvon.Take his gun and we won’t hear anything else from him

  • Jo Natha Cooper

    Freeing the Black slaves also freed the white one too…LOL… get a book

  • Jo Natha Cooper

    Poor Trayvon he was a kid… and kids make mistakes. He did not deserve to die tlke that… No matter how tall he was or how big he was he was still a kid and in school. He got suspended for writng WTF on a locker and having an empty baggie of weed…Kid stuff… He didnt have a gun… and yeah he was an innocent child I understand the art and I think it is a grest way to keep this injustice to this CHILD relevant. Because it should have never happened. GZ should have not had a gun. Neighbor hood watch is WATCH… and call not confront follow or provoke a confrontation. Thats in the guidelines… Its too bad they let the law really confuse the jury. They didn’t focus on the real point which was that he should have never gotten out of his vehicle. and he should not have had a gun on duty…

  • Mike

    The biggest crime of all is that 99% of the people that weren’t there when it happened are the ones that comment on what should and shouldn’t be done. None of us were there, so we’ll never really know what happened. That’s between two people, and that’s it. The biggest crime is that the white side and the black side have a reason to bitch at each other and stir hate, when we really need to grow up and at least attempt to show our better side. We’re all getting a beating from our state and federal governments, along with a crappy world economy. Putting Trevon Martin up in place of Jesus Christ is just plain wrong, and whoever thought it was a good idea is just a shit-stirrer.

    • Jo Natha Cooper

      That doll in place of Jesus is wrong too…Any graven image is supposed to be wrong. Can’t pick and choose right?