30-Year-Old Pregnant Mother Fatally Shot By Police After Calling For Help

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The victim of a police shooting in Seattle was a young pregnant mother, and her family rightfully wants answers. Sunday morning, Charleena Lyles called the police seeking their help, only to end up succumbing to gunshot wounds to her chest and abdomen.

Police shootings of civilians are on the rise, and situations such as this one do not help in repairing the damaged relations between police and the population. Seattle police said they got a call from Lyles Sunday morning. She declared that there was a burglary taking place at her home. The police department sent two officers because they knew Lyles and were concerned for the officers’ safety. They arrived at Brettler Family Place 3 and went up to the fourth floor. They said Lyles confronted them with a knife.

Lyles had a history of mental illness, but her family says she was not a threat to the heavily armed police officers. That proved correct when Lyles knife was no match for several gunshot wounds. “Both officers had to fire their service weapons, striking the individual,” Seattle Police Detective Mark Jamieson said. “Unfortunately, it is a fatality.” The police luckily missed Lyles’ children with their gunfire, who were in the apartment when they shot their mother. Lyles was three months pregnant at the time of her death.

“There’s no reason for her to be shot in front of her babies,” Williams said. The police also labeled Lyles as a “suspect” for having the audacity to call them asking for help.

Lyles did have a criminal record, but the family attributes it to her mental health that no one was willing to address. She was arrested June 5 for harassment and obstructing a police officer. She was released from the King County Jail on June 14, only a few days before her fatal encounter with police. Her family said she didn’t belong in jail, but no one would listen. “She has mental health issues that nobody’s trying to f**king address,” Williams insisted.

What is she going do to all you police?” Monika Williams, Lyles’ sister demanded. “You big ass men? I can take her down, I know you can.” She added, “why couldn’t they have Tased her?” The police wanted to make sure everyone knows that no cops were injured when they took the life of a young pregnant mother while her children were in the same apartment.

A story in the Federal Way Mirror featured Lyles in 2008 as a success story. She had gotten a job through a program for at-risk youth. The story said Lyles had been receiving welfare when she entered the THRIVE program and was later placed at the Poverty Bay Coffee Company in Federal Way where she was permanently employed and no longer received welfare.

The officers who shot her are on paid leave, as is the standard procedure. Seattle Mayor Ed Murray is promising a full investigation. Community vigils have already been held in protest of Lyles’ shooting, and support for her grieving family is taking off on social media.

Lyles’ family deserves the answers that they seek. If she was calling the police for help because of a burglary of her home, wouldn’t it make sense that since she was at home at the time, she would try to protect her children with a weapon? Perhaps a knife? If she was mentally ill, as her family claims, she wouldn’t have legally had access to a gun, so a knife would have likely been her only choice as a means to protect her children. Until we see the body cam footage (if it exists), what took place before the shooting is speculation, yet won’t matter much. A pregnant woman is dead at the hands of police.

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  • RandyJ/ProudSurvivor

    I can’t decide which disturbs me more, the fact that this woman was pregnant, that her other children were present at the time of the shooting or that the victim was mentally ill. It only adds insult to injury that she was subsequently described as a suspect. Don’t bother holding your breath that these cops might actually be punished. A grand jury of sheeple will surely determine she posed a “threat” to these “heroic” “peace officers” and they were “justified” in protecting themselves. Pardon while I go barf….

  • Mechman29

    Humm… internal investigation… paid vacation… sounds legit… I’m sure it’ll all be worked out perfectly…

  • g.johnon

    i am old enough to remember a time, not all that long ago, when the crowning achievement to a police officers career was to retrire without ever having to draw ones weapon in the line of duty. nowadays its like a contest to see who can come up with the most creative excuse to get away with killing a citizen.
    those holding on to hope that there is a peaceful answer are not only kidding themselves, but are actually abetting the downfall of freedom and human dignity.
    the constitutional republic of the usa has been overthrown by psychotic bitches too cowardly to openly claim victory.
    we the sheeple graze on in blissful imperviosity.

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    • Freespirit

      Excellent ,”g”

  • Pippiagain

    Let’s see…some crazy lady with a history of trying to attack and kill police officers calls police to get them to come to her house. When they arrive, she tries to attack them in the same manner previously attempted. No burglary is taking place. Lady, who happens to be pregnant, attacks the police in front of her children-putting them at risk. And the police are at fault? And how were they to know she was 3 mo pregnant. You do not show at 3 months. And the family wonders why?????

    • g.johnon

      fuck you moron.

      • I guess anyone who has a different point of view than you do is automatically a moron? I hope that you don’t have a problem understanding why this nation is constantly at war.

        • BW83

          Easy now, if he doesn’t get it he’ll just call you a moron lol. Or even worse, a big, mean, stupid-pants.

          • At least I’m not still pooping in them.

          • BW83

            With the advances in the laundry detergent industry it’s really not the problem it used to be

          • The industrial laundry detergent market hasn’t had any advances in its products because the chemistry hasn’t changed in decades. Since many of them still rent diapers, they are used to dealing with that problem, and specialize in sterilization.

          • roger

            we’ll just have to take your word for that…..

          • That is exactly where the ignorant wind up in the absence of research skills.

          • Likewise, I’m sure.

        • g.johnon

          wrong as usual disqo boy. people with moronic opinions are morons. this asshole does not even provide us with an opinion, just regurgitation of a tiresome variation on the theme of respect authority at all costs.
          if you want to excuse killer cops, you are worse than a moron.
          any questions? or ya just gonna spew another patented disqo boy non-sequitur at us?

          • I’m no more willing to excuse gross ignorance than I am killer cops, but the former causes a lot more damage than the latter, on a societal level, and your application of common grammatical ignorance and ad hominem are far more heinous than anything a common troll could cook up.

          • g.johnon

            i am impressed. not only was that response not a mere non-sequitur, it was darn near cogent and on track with the post that you were responding too.
            just for me, would it be too much to ask you to point out precise examples of my “common grammatical ignorance” i would very much appreciate such an opportunity for self improvement.
            as for ad hominem, sorry, ad hominem means to attack without reason in order to divert attention from the fact that one has no case to argue. i made my case, and am, as always, prepared to defend it.
            so, please defend your attacks on me, lest they actually prove themselve ad hominem.

          • You should start out with capitalization like you were taught in elementary school. You only have to defend yourself against attacks that you created by internalizing things that I said without intending an attack. That is easy to see in the fact that instead of refuting what I had said, you attempted to impugn my credibility, which is exactly what an argumentum ad hominem (its complete name) is used for.

          • g.johnon

            i do understand that my non-use of capitalization does, occasionally, get certain anals all bent out of shape, so, for that i humbly apologize to you. unfortunately, while i was indeed taught capitalization in elementary school, i was not taught to touch type the shift key. thus, if i try to capitalize, it either slows me down significantly or makes a mess. most seem to understand what i am trying to say without caps. guess they just have certain talents not enjoyed by yourself. no big deal, it does not make you less a person.

            also, i am fully aware of the “complete name” for ad hominem and of its actual meaning:

            Ad hominem
            Ad hominem, short for argumentum ad hominem, is now usually understood as a logical fallacy in which an argument is rebutted by attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument, or persons associated with the argument, rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself.

            you see disque, i never attack you without including a critique of your arguments. therefore, the misconception of ad hominem is yours. (please note the term “rather than” in the above definition.

          • I guess I don’t have that problem because I don’t touch type and my construction has to be correct or I don’t get a passing grade or get paid.

          • g.johnon

            different strokes. i dont get paid for this, and i ceased caring about grades decades ago.

          • I don’t get paid for this either. I’m training to become a medical transcription editor, and doing that kind of work requires the understanding and applicability of grammar that is required to make certain that the patient’s electronic record is accurate and correct. If my work doesn’t meet the minimum requirements for the customer, it will be returned until it does, and I won’t be paid until it does, once I begin working. It would be pretty silly not to apply the same professional vigor to my non-professional writing. If being understood isn’t important to you, one has to wonder what your purpose would be in writing anything.

          • g.johnon

            being understood is very important to me disco. the fact that you personally claim to have trougl

          • Then I won’t waste any more time on trying to understand someone who seem to be more interested in trolling.

          • g.johnon

            goodness!

          • David E

            lol, “patented disqo boy non-sequitur,” ha ha good one

          • g.johnon

            ah, sounds like you are familiar with the disqus man.

          • David E

            Indeed. But in this case I have to agree with him–you are using ad hominem argument. Every now and then he does make sense, though not often.

            My last run in with him, he was explaining to me that jails do not interfere with liberty since you get three hots and a cot.

          • roger

            uhhuh

          • g.johnon

            i would sincerely be interest in knowing why you perceive me as using an ad hominem argument.

            three hots and a cot equals liberty does sound about right.

      • Pippiagain

        Classy. Obviously a Rhodes scholar with something to say…

        • g.johnon

          so mr. pippi, do you have something to say? or are you just here to tell me all about class?

          • Pippiagain

            Well, you obviously have also never read the classics, if you think Pippi is a Mr. I think you just proved my point.

          • g.johnon

            well, i certainly have not read all the classics as you so obviously have. but i am familiar with pippi longstockings. sorry i did not make the connection, my bad.
            so, care to explain what point of yours that this proves? and how such point was proven by my failure to make a somewhat opaque gender connection?
            next time you start a sentence with “i think” back it up. k?

          • Pippiagain

            So you like to dish it out, but you can’t take it. Hmmm.

          • g.johnon

            just exactly WTF are you blithering about now?

          • g.johnon

            you really seem to be projecting pippi.

      • roger

        what you said.

    • David E

      “a history of trying to attack and kill police officers”

      Nowhere in the story.

      “she tries to attack them in the same manner previously attempted”

      Nowhere in the story.

      “No burglary is taking place.”

      Nowhere in the story.

      “Lady, who happens to be pregnant, attacks the police”

      Nowhere in the story.

      • Pippiagain

        Which is essential what I said. When you attack or try to attack police officers with a knife, a rational person would assume you are trying to kill them. yes?

        • David E

          No. The story is not about a woman who attacked police with a knife. It never says that. It says she confronted them with a knife when they entered. You don’t get to make up an “attack” from that.

          And her history is one of obstruction, not one of attacking police and trying to kill them.

          And the police looking no further after killing her means next to nothing, given that there are obvious plausible reasons they aren’t going to work her burglary call, mainly covering up an unjustified shooting.

        • G’ma G

          I rational person dealing with a crazy person with a knife rather than a weapon with any range would actually presume they are just nuts and trying to protect themselves from false demons… and back far, far away.

      • Tyron Cuffee

        Left out those parts oops like they always do

    • LT

      Yes, we don’t have enough information to say that the police officers acted wrongly. We don’t know the details.

      • g.johnon

        two (supposedly) well trained cops cannot disarm a woman with a knife without both of them drawing their firearms and shooting her to death. really lt, you need more?

    • Freespirit

      Anyone reading the story, comparing to your remarks, can see you are a terribly INEPT TROLL

      • Pippiagain

        Interesting, as I am neither inept, nor a troll. Obviously you have no idea of the meaning of the words you bandy about.

        • David E

          inept indeed is an apt word to describe you.

        • Freespirit

          Don’t you wish

    • Oboehner

      I can see that the body armor wearing,out numbering, more-heavily armed, cops would be scared and have to open fire especially since they had prior warning.

      • Pippiagain

        You attack the police, it is not about who has armor or who has guns. It is about getting yourself in a position to be killed.

        • Oboehner

          Who protects we the people if the police attack us? Or is that ok, just part of life’s little hazards? Oopsie daisy.

  • randy wellman

    wait…WHAT?….there’s an investigation….by the guys that DID it?

    • SP_88

      Yup. And I bet it will be exhaustive and thorough with the highest degree of integrity and….nah, just joking. Their not gonna sell out their own.

  • SP_88

    I’m sure that she will be labeled a threat to the police and the shooting will be justified. The only witnesses are the two police officers who shot her, some traumatized children and a dead woman. I highly doubt that they will release any footage of the incident, if there is any. Or, if they do have it, it will conveniently disappear.
    These cops are not gonna go down for the murder of someone that they don’t believe even had a right to life.
    It’s a shame that the first option police choose has gone from trying to calm a situation and preserve life to shoot first and ask questions later.
    But we have allowed this police state to thrive on our apathy and complacency.
    There was a time when you would have a hard time trying to find police officers willing to behave this way. Now it’s as if there is a prize for killing the most civilians.

    • elbustaroyjetspeekerson

      No “as ifs” about it….

  • NonYo Business

    Murder.

  • Kendoaz

    She should not have had a knife and come after the officers it seems, as tragic as it is.

    • How do you know that she had a knife and came after officers?

    • g.johnon

      we only have the 2 killers cops word that she ever had a knife or that she wielded it menacingly (whatever the hell that meant). so you and your little up bumping pilot fish should really learn to think first, then maybe talk.

  • nuknuk1000

    police in washington state fabricate all the time..they are criminals with badges.

    min 19 on this vid.. their attorneys say they can outright fabricate…and do

    • g.johnon

      nuknuk, thanks for the vid. amazing these lawyers and judges doing all these strenuous mental gymnastics to try to fit false testimony from cops into some kind of acceptability. how can this be a debate? perjury is a crime, period! trying to make it ok for cops and detectives is very telling. if a detective lies in court, he should be fined, jailed and fired, end of story. this court sessions seems to be all about finding a way to make it ok form a cop to perjure himself.
      the entire session appears to be an ongoing act of treason by these “officers of the court”.

  • Asylumsix

    Why even pull a gun on someone with a knife? Cops should have to carry knives for this situation and practice for 80’s style street fights..

    Seriously though, one hit with a baton would knock that knife out of her hand instantly…

    • Any pair of police officers that couldn’t disarm a woman armed with a knife without drawing their weapons should be sent to the end of a long unemployment line after they have served their sentences for manslaughter.

      • g.johnon

        that is not manslaughter as the officers had intent to kill. ergo, murder one.

        • Intent makes it second degree in most jurisdictions. Almost all require malice of forethought, and that couldn’t have been present, for first degree to be proven. It is all academic because police shootings almost never make it to a court of competent jurisdiction.

          • g.johnon

            oh disqus, once again you attempt reason and once again you fall short.
            to say that malice aforethought “couldn’t have been present, for first degree to be proven”, is just a sad thing for you to say.
            first off, i could easily have been present in either or both cops from the time they each got out of bed that morniing, and likely from long before that. these cops could easily have a working prejudice for certain, types, classes, races and/or genders. one or both could well have been itching to drop a “crazy black skank” for years before the proper opportunity arose. i am no way making a claim that this happened, just demonstrating what could be, thus severely mitigating your claim th

          • Freespirit

            “g” you may seem to be a good person to ask: I noticed a few months ago about 2000 of my comments disappeared from my “count” on DISQUS, and I paid no real concern, at the time, but have noticed ever since comments of mine do not get recorded on my count.Even one of my comments got to you ok on the actual Daily Sheeple web site, BUT does not show in DISQUS

            Have you noticed anything like that and/or is it normal and I am just :”over-thinking”?

          • g.johnon

            aww free, i have never noticed such a thing myself, but then i don’t spend a lot of time checking on my comments. now that you bring this up, maybe i should. not that it would help me to understand the behind the scenes workings of tds. so, sorry, i don’t know.

          • Freespirit

            I tried querying DISQUS about, in writing, it but they gave me no reply

            Thanks anyway

          • g.johnon

            welcome.

          • It merely proves that you don’t understand the concept of malice of forethought.

          • g.johnon

            no disque it does not prove that at all.

          • Like a judge, I can only go by the evidence that you present, and since it is all in semi-ebonics, the presumption will be of illiteracy and idiocy.

          • g.johnon

            huh. duly noted. i’ll try to watch out for that.

          • g.johnon

            and btw, i would really like your take on the difference between intent to murder and malice aforethought. just cuz, you know….

        • roger

          yup

    • Tyron Cuffee

      If it was a broomstick or bat I might agree but a knife? What would use?

      • g.johnon

        actually, i would be way more concerned about a women coming at me with a baseball bat than i would a knife. still not that hard to disarm though.

        so tyron, are you a cop? or just a goofball buff?

    • g.johnon

      yeppers, even a little tazola would take care of the problem with nobody dying in front of their children.

  • landy fincannon

    Another opportunity for less than lethal ignored choosing for a death sentence instead

    • Phil_Ossifer

      Batons, tasers, pepper spray…or simply outmuscle the woman. They had several options. The problem is they’re trained to react to any threat with deadly force and know that they’ll get away with it in most cases.

      • Tyron Cuffee

        Deadly force = oh I don’t know …. oh deadly force… really? No idea what the real world is. Not what you see on TV.

  • Freespirit

    Let’s see now: Police have Numbers, Batons and MACE, but since African American WOMEN are more dangerous than regular knife wielders, they shot her, DEAD

    One more AFRICAN AMERICAN that America doesn’t need to worry about, right.

    • These people in African America must be pretty dangerous, especially since I can’t find the place on any map or in any atlas.

      • Freespirit

        You are right. There was ALSO never an IRISH America, ITALIAN America, JAPANESE America etc.

        • Or a better ability to detect forked tongues.

        • g.johnon

          ummm, slight correction: there were no americans until amerigo vespucci came along

          • Freespirit

            I wasn’t trying to convey political accuracy, just make a point when he thought he was being mister “smartguy” telling me about AFRICAN American not existing but being too young to know that the First of almost all cultures and some EVEN to this day, call themselves Irish Americans ,Italian Americans – hyphenated names, in other words etc.

            That troll is more than likely a Bigot against black Americans.

            I knew he was trolling me so I trolled him back 🙂

          • g.johnon

            easy hoss, that was just a bit of levity, ergo “minor” correction.

          • Freespirit

            I wasn’t being “uneasy”. I said it with levity

          • g.johnon

            yeah, i missed the smileys, sorry. 🙂

    • Pippiagain

      At least one more baby making nut job they don’t have to worry about. One who likes to attack the police.

      • Freespirit

        Thanks for stopping by and not staying too long

        • Pippiagain

          Another Rhoades Scholar.

          • Freespirit

            Did you mean “Rhodes” and by the way, andthanks for reminding me. I turned down, well, in reality, I ignored, an invitation to join MENSA based on scoring over 130 on their test – do you think I should have accepted it?

            I love to ask an EXPERT like you

          • Pippiagain

            Actually, some of the interest groups are rather intriguing, others are not. I’m certainly no expert, but you might have enjoyed getting together with other intelligent people. We both know, no matter what political side you are on, that it is sometimes hard to find others to converse, or even debate with. But they have their oddballs, too! I know this is totally off subject, and you meant it as an insult, but seriously, you might find it interesting, and lively.

          • Freespirit

            No I did not mean it as an”insult”. I DID mean it as a WAKE UP reminder, that you know NOT, whom you are talking to.

            NOW, from what you have just stated, I do notice you are a good person who is not afraid to admit or face up to an error, so you have gained my respect.

            Thanks,sincerely, for the “suggestion”, but am past the stage of my life when I want to DEBATE people. I am 77 with 77 years of knowledge and wisdom. I have learned from my many years that there are 2 , let us call them, DIMENSIONS of individuals : one is the BELIEVER, thanks to family, religious and school indoctrination who “debates” ( for lack of a better word) and the other is my TYPE who DEBATES from REASON and Empirical evidence, only. Neither the TWAIN shall ever meet…….in other words can NEVER AGREE and is THUS a complete waste of time

            REASON and BELIEF can never agree, which is why this planet is doomed, until something causes the NEXT and REAL great awakening…….and NOT a “God” if that is what you are thinking.

            The ZIONIST Jews are in the process of introducing, just that, a ONE WORLD God, very soon , which will keep the masses DUMBED – DOWN for the next 1000 years or more

            It is BELIEF in Gods and Governments (AUTHORITY) which is the problem, NOT the solution and NO I am not interested in “Debating” that 🙂

            Respectfully, Take care now

          • g.johnon

            “rhodes” (sigh)

    • Tyron Cuffee

      Anyone welding a knife is threatening. If was against you family you wouldn’t act?

      • Freespirit

        Thanks for your input

  • andweav

    As Snoop said “Hoes betta’ recognize!” Lesson for the children- Don’t be a ho and call the cops! Moral of the story- don’t be a ho and bring a knife to a gun fight!

  • Tyron Cuffee

    Really, I mean really, if you weld a knife at the “po-lice” it’s gonna happen. Should they be stabbed just because she’s mental? More leftist bs. Most, not all but most law enforcement didn’t go through 6 months or more of training just to shoot people. If they perceive a threat then they act…I guess it’s just gotten to the point in this country that no-one understands protecting one’s self and others. Oh and the first thing they did, required by policy…call paramedics and start CPR.

    • g.johnon

      ty, all cops are trained at take down and disarmament. this has nothing to do with right or left thinking, it is all about both common sense and basic trustworthiness of law enforcement. when they perceive a threat, they act accordingly. both cops drawing and shooting down a woman that can’t be more than 100 pounds, who is holding a knife is not acting accordingly. it only requires fairly simple distract and disarm maneuvers that these officers should well have been trained to execute.
      there is no valid excuse here, and you cop lovers trying to make excuses is both pathetic and alarming.

      • Tyron Cuffee

        Guess you just gonna get cut then?

        • g.johnon

          thousand ways to avoid that without killing.

      • Tyron Cuffee

        Oh and they can’t just back out and leave they have to act because they are legally bound to act. If she did anything to hurt her kids or the public they would be held accountable…oh no law degree…shows

        • g.johnon

          backing out the door, securing the exit and calling back up is acting and does fulfill their requirement to “act”. they are bound by law to resolve a situation without becoming agents of escalation.
          they are not bound by law to kill as first resort.
          today’s training overlooks this and conditions the cop to think of certain segments of the population as the enemy.
          it sometimes looks like a race war, but it is a war of “class”.
          are you a cop tyron?

  • calvin johnson

    Thanks for the info Sheeple. I noticed all “regular” newspapers start each article, even the title, with the Lynched Mother & FETUS “had a knife.” Customary word “ALLEGEDLY” was omitted? Who’s to say it wasn’t “planted?” She had challenged and reported on them days before?

  • g.johnon

    wow jim, i am sorry to hear of this. until now i had no idea this site even had a moderator. especially one who would reject an attempt at presenting facts.

  • Tyron Cuffee

    So they allowed her to have custody of her kids being mentally ill?

    • g.johnon

      awww tyron, did you even think about how that very fact fucks up the cops claim of her being mentally unstable in first place?
      of course you didn’t.

      • Freespirit

        Tyron, has a “one track mind” so he wont notice the contradiction

      • Joshua Brownley

        Guessing you never heard of devils advocate but foul language, insults, and name calling might this be open mindedness?

        • g.johnon

          bad guessing.
          and yes, those may indeed be signs of an open mind….but how would you know?

  • Freespirit

    I don’t agree it is only about ECONOMICS, otherwise I agree fully with your sentiments. There IS, however, something MORE insidious at work today, than purely economics

    Are you familiar with the “TALMUD” and “PROTOCOLS of ZION” and do you understand WHO are in control in America, at ALL LEVELS and the source of info and knowledge,such as BUT not limited to,Hollywood, MSM and the Public UN-EDUCATION system.

    If not start doing the research including about the “Georgia GUIDE STONES”

  • Freespirit

    It happened to me once and I reported it to Daily Sheeple, via email, and even got an apology and it never happened again……so far. 🙂

    Just saying