3 Types Of Thieves Preppers Should Be Planning For

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The purpose of this article is to discuss the Human threat to your retreat location.  This Human threat can take on multiple modes, some very dangerous to your safety and others not so much.  The trick, of course, is figuring out the nature of each and every encounter while you can still affect the outcome.

Much like playing in a Role-Playing-Game (RPG), you won’t know the nature of an encounter until you’re in it.  Will you benefit from it?  Will you be in danger because of it?  What type of benefit might you obtain or what threat might you face?  There is no way of knowing in advance, and every encounter carries some degree of risk.  With an RPG, such things are decided by a roll of dice.  With real life, things are decided by the minds and morals of men though some might consider the “fickle finger of fate” in the mix as well.

Note: A RPG, such as Twilight 2000, is an excellent way to test your defensive concepts in a fairly realistic manner without having to do a full exercise with all your people as well as someone to stand in for your opponents etc.  Use the RPG environment to get an idea of how many attackers a specific defense can hold against, how weapons variations can make a difference to both attackers and defenders, as well as how the introduction of other “variables” might affect things.

What kinds of threats are we talking about?  I’ll start with what I refer to as two-legged Locusts (or 2LLs for short).  These are people who will, for whatever reason, wander across the landscape much like a swarm of Locusts.  These people will consume everything in their path, only pausing when they stumble across a well-stocked area, and then only until they’ve eaten everything available in that place.  Bear in mind that while the amount of food in a place will govern how long they stay, they will likely strip most places of everything else of use or value while they are at it.  Some Preppers refer to this threat as the “golden horde” which is also an apt describer of them since they will almost certainly strip the land much as the Mongol Horde did in ancient times.  Why might people leave their homes to become 2LLs?  They may elect to leave their home area due to food shortages, encroaching threats, or similar.  Alternately they may have been physically forced from their homes.  Why they ended up as 2LL is immaterial, the fact that they are is all that matters to the people they run into.  The good news is that most of this type of threat won’t be very organized, nor will they have much tactical skill.  Their most common approach will be what’s known as “hey diddle diddle, straight up the middle” AKA the well-known frontal assault.  No real finesse, just the equivalent of a bum rush.  Some of these might exhibit some organization, but it won’t be much or they’d be organized enough to stay in an area and homestead it.  This is also the group I think of when people talk about zombies, as I expect these will have very similar results to a “zombie apocalypse”.  Sure, the 2LLs won’t eat your brains (I hope), but whether they kill you to get to your food or devour what was going to keep you alive the end result is the same.  This type of threat may be somewhat tolerant of casualties, meaning that a few casualties may not convince these people to pass your retreat up.  In fact, if they are desperate enough, it may take substantial casualties inflicted on the 2LL before they will leave you alone.

The next group of concern is what I call raiders.  These will be more organized than the 2LLs and in many cases far more violent.  While these may be nomadic or operate from a fixed base, I see these as different from the 2LLs because their attacks will be more hit and run or grab and go in nature.  In other words, these threats will be of shorter duration and typically very specific in their objectives.  I expect that this threat will be far less tolerant of casualties than the 2LL, in fact I suspect if they encounter anything resembling a well-organized defense they will avoid it and focus their sights on easier prey.  Of course, much depends on the “prize” they anticipate from the target of their attention.  The more they want what a specific target location has, the more willingly they will accept casualties.  Much also depends on the nature of the raiders themselves and how they came to be raiders.  I expect many raider groups will grow from motorcycle clubs (or gangs if you prefer) though they could develop from a variety of other groups as well.  I expect that the ones from clubs made up of folks who like to ride to be less violent and more opportunistic in nature.  I anticipate that those made up of “outlaw” club chapters (Hell’s Angels and similar) will be far more violent in every aspect of their activities.  Raiders will, for the most part, be highly mobile and heavily armed.  These will be the “run and gun” threats for most folks after TSHTF.  Note: A Raider group may be under the direction or control of an Overlord, see below.

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The most serious threat to Preppers is what I’ll call Warlords or Overlords.  The basic concept resembles a feudal system, where a person in a position of authority provides protection or control over other people for a percentage of whatever they have or produce.  In Medieval times, the person in charge would have belonged to the nobility and have knights as well as men-at-arms to enforce their will and protect their holdings.  In modern times the person who ends up “in charge” of a given area following TEOTWAWKI might be the County Sheriff (as they already wield much power in their county), some other “elected official”, the patriarch (or matriarch) of a wealthy family, the owner of the largest employer in the area, etc.  The “men-at-arms” could be local law enforcement, members of various “clubs”, or a local militia.  The major threat to Preppers would arise if the Overlord sees them as a threat, though confiscation of weapons and/or supplies would also pose a threat to them.  Secondary concerns would include things like requirements for Prepper group members to provide labor, services, or taxes as well as limitations to the group’s ability to trade etc.  The severity of these threats will be based on 2 considerations; the personality of the Overlord (tyrannical, domineering, paranoid, charismatic, benevolent, etc.) and the severity of the SHTF situation that led to the current status.

There are other potential threats for Preppers following TEOTWAWKI, ranging from neighbor issues to assorted smaller groups approaching the retreat.  These should not be discounted or ignored.  But they will be minor in comparison to the 2LL, Raiders, or Overlords.  Dealing with any of these dictates 24X7X365 vigilance for as long as ROL (Rule of Law) is not in force  and the maintenance of a low profile in general.  How you deal with these threats will be based on the size comparison between your group and the threat group and the specifics of the situation you find yourself in.  Good luck!


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  • to quote via cut & paste of D’oro, a Sheeple commentor:


    > What happens when the sewers ‘tactically’ back up?

    > What to you do when the flies decide to get all ‘tactical’ on the dead corpses and ‘tactically’ spread cholera to your little suburban home?

    > What happens when a nuke ‘tactically’ GLASSES THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD?

    > How will you ‘tactically’ generate ‘tactical electricity’ when an EMP wipes out our power grid?

    > How ‘tactical’ do you think you can get against Drones, MRAPS, IRGs and NVGs, F-22s, A-10s, Tanks etc. etc.

    > How ‘tactical’ will you be if you inhale an aerosol virus from a chemtrail?

    How about you just do the smart thing and ‘tactically’ clean out your bank accounts and ‘tactically’ move to a safer country?

    Forget your little fuckin’ suburban home (hell, SELL IT while the market’s still afloat!) and MOVE. AWAY.


    Sorry for the sarcasm, but GOD freaking DAMMIT, people… I’ve been surfing this site for almost 4 years now, and my thinking has moved on, but there’s always these same f*cking articles!

    Where’s the Critical thinking skills, people?

    This isn’t gonna be a ‘War’ where you all ‘heroically’ fight back with your Grandpa’s M1 Garand and your printed AR-15s – it’s gonna be a quick, quiet, suffering-filled slaughter. The lights will go out, the riots will sweep over us, disease and starvation will take more, and a Neutron bomb will eliminate anyone who remains. Done.

    Am i f*cking wrong? Explain if so…

    • disqus_3BrONUAJno

      And the safer country is…? When the world’s banks go down, the world’s economy will be in shambles. It is way past the time that ones plans should be in place and one should be living where one intends to for the rest of ones predictable lifespan.

      • I might head for the mountains near Pico Orizaba, teach English, grow beans that wrap around the corn stalks, eat flowers deep fried in oil , build a wooden shack with a leaky woodstove, rice tea, milk a goat, bike on my Trek, bribe the local mayor with five bucks, beats being a chattel slave in USA INC where the 666 implants are not far off

        • disqus_3BrONUAJno

          Facial recognition and the high popularity of smart phones provide all the functionality of implants without the overhead.
          Unpayable debt has turned everyone in the world into chattel slaves. When the American government is asking the Mexican government for help with its border security, it’s a pretty good indicator that we are well on our way to the North American Union. All that remains is the elimination of the stragglers in the middle class.

    • Sir TuberKopf

      The powers that be don’t want a dead planet, they want and need live slaves.

      They do see an over population problem, the planet over run by riff raft, greedy middle class! People like Al Gore justify and think of us in terms of a culling, not genocide!

      The article speaks of warlords, watch the news to see how the Obama regime manages warlords around the world. Arming and helping some. Then arming their opposition to keeps the attrition rate high. Don’t think they won’t pull this crap on American soil, what do you think began in Ferguson.

      • hmmmm,,,,, very interesting, to quote Rowan & Martin’s Laugh-in

  • get back in a few, the Mrs. just cooked our first batch of chicken livers that we have ever had in 30 years.

    • Sir TuberKopf

      Grandpa’s favorite dinner from the depression days was “Cream Chip Beef”, I hoped I’d never have to eat it again. LOL….. Happy days are here again….

      Take flour, and cold water make a thin paste add left over tiny cubes of ham or corned beef, salt, pepper, heat and spread over toast. Grandpa grew up on it, yum!

      • Jas

        lol…..that’s SOS…Shit on a Shingle!

        • Sir TuberKopf

          ^^^ ding ding ding ^^^ we have a winner!

      • My dad had ketchup sandwiches. One elderly farm lady once told me people would hang out by the train tracks to get grain falling out as the train went by

    • Oracle

      Tim, don’t come to Mexico, even now in times before SHTF, it is lawless and corrupt. You will not only have to avoid or fight off the criminals with weapons here, but will stand to lose all that you own to the corrupt politicians, lawyers, and judges. In all levels of society, from the poorest to the wealthy, Mexico is a land made up of mostly lairs and thieves, ruled by the law of greed. Been here full time for 10 years, I’m headed back stateside asap.

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  • Sir TuberKopf

    Are not the drug lords of Mexico “War Lords”? Obama and holder ran guns to them in fast and furious, and likely at other times.

    Yes, your own government armed war lords who would turn those guns on Americans. It was no accident, the Manchurian candidate is not stupid, it was premeditated, he knows what he is doing, there is intent.